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Thanks Erato, it looks really interesting, but there's a lot of material to get through there!!! Many thanks once again.
Rhiannon

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Hi Hiraeth
Margaret Humphreys (Griffith actually, her father was Griffith Humphrey but they still used patronymics then) was my 4th great aunt. I've only just discovered that the family migrated. May I ask how you're connected?
It seems that most of the children never married, and the only one who did, Owen, had one son who didn't have children himself.
Rhiannon

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Moel y Gest Cemetery
« on: Sunday 07 February 21 17:47 GMT (UK)  »
In memory of John Owen, Rigger, Portmadoc
Who died Feb 8, 1882 aged 77 years

Under Napier's flag he fought,
And to this port at last was brought,
Woun'd but anchored safe on shore,
From swords, and pikes, and cannon's roar,
And chance, and change of sailor's life,
Want, and plenty, rest and strife,
And all the perils of the deep,
He lieth well in silent sleep,
His spirits fled when sails were furled,
For pension in a peaceful world.

Also Jane, beloved wife of the above
Who died August 5th, 1893 aged 85 years.

A newspaper report on John Owen's life can be found at
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3536566/3536574/94/
(first column - last article in Gogledd Cymru)

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Merionethshire / Re: Capel Rehoboth, Harlech & Rhosygwalia, Bala
« on: Sunday 07 February 21 15:09 GMT (UK)  »
This booklet gives a lot of information about Capel Rehoboth.
Traethawd ar hanes y Bedyddwyr Albanaidd yn Harlech (1891) by William Williams.
It is available to view (when they reopen) at the Dolgellau Archives.
Also Bangor University Archives has the manuscript list of members dating back to 1819.

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Henry Jones 1st ship builder of Portmadog born 1782 died 1861
« on: Friday 22 January 21 00:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, my wife and I have just caught up with this thread whilst researching the Lloyd family of Cwm Bychan from whom she is descended. Catherine Roberts (the daughter of Henry Jones) married John Robert Lloyd (1826-1911) in December quarter 1866. She was his second wife, and his first wife (Catherine Thomas of Penycerrig, Llandanwg) had given him 10 children in 16 years. In 1870 John Robert Lloyd emigrated to Kansas, USA, with a third 'wife', Grace Jones, leaving Catherine, described as a widow in the 1871 census, to look after his first wife's children. There is a possible third marriage in Missouri in 1890 for John and Grace. Grace bore John Robert Lloyd 12 children, and there is an extensive article on the family by Dr Lewis Lloyd in the Journal of the Merioneth Historical and Record Society, Volume 7, Part 3 (1975) and a follow up in Part 4 in 1976.

The MI for Rehoboth (Grave C032) is as follows.
Er cof mai yma y claddwyd / Margaret / gwraig Harri Jones o Borth Madawg / Saer llongau / yr hon a fu farw Rhagfyr yr 28ain 1856 / yn 74 mlwydd oed. / Hefyd y claddwyd y dywededig uchod / Harri Jones / yr hwn a fu farw y 23 o Dachwedd 1861 / yn 80 mlwydd oed. / Also to the memory of / John Jones, master mariner / eldest son of the above mentioned / Harri Jones by Catherine his first wife / who was lost in a storm near / Coldy Road, Bristol Channel on the 10th day of May 1870 / aged 48 years. / Part of the vessel was foud under / the Cliff Rock. / And likewise to the memory of / Henry Jones, Mariner, eldest sone / of the above mentioned John Jones / and Catherine his wife, died on his passage / from Liverpool: in lat. 2.5. N. Long. 23.12W / on the 18th day of March 1871, / aged 20 years
O dir a mor daw'r meirwon
Daw pob cnawd ddydd brawd ger bron
Hefyd er serchus gof am Catherine Lloyd / merch yr Harri Jones uchod / Bu farw Medi 17, 1891 yn 70 oed. / Wele myfi a'th burais, ond nid fel arian / Dewisais di mewn pair cystudd

Translated =
In remembrance that here is buried Margaret, wife of Harri Jones of Porthmadog, shipbuilder, who died Dec 28th 1856 at the age of 74. Also buried is the above mentioned Harri Jones who died 23rd of November 1861 at the age of 80. Also in loving memory of Catherine Lloyd, daughter of the above mentioned Harri Jones who died Sept 17, 1891 at the age of 70.

Hope this helps
Davyth

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The Lighter Side / Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« on: Wednesday 28 September 11 21:56 BST (UK)  »
Rice Williams was baptised in Amlwch, N Anglesey, in 1820. He married for the first time in 1840 in Caernarfon, for a second time in 1867 in Bangor, and for a third time to my great great grandmother Ellin Griffith in 1868, again in Bangor. He died in 1879 in Deiniolen, near Llanberis. In censuses he usually appears as a tinker.
Edward Stockley or Williams, Rice’s father, was born c 1777 in Llanrhuddlad, NW Anglesey (according to one census). He married for the first time to a Frances Thomas in Llaneilian in 1807 and they had five children, David in 1808, Thomas in 1811, William in 1813, John 1817 – 1830, and Rice 1820. Frances died in 1830 and Edward married for a second time to a Catherine Williams in 1831 in the parish of Ceirchiog in W Anglesey. They had one child, William W Stockley in 1832 in Amlwch . Catherine died in 1848 so Edward married for a third time in 1849 in Amlwch to an Elizabeth Hughes, the widow of Griffith Hughes, a copper smelter. Edward died in 1865, the death certificate stating he was 105 years old! His will was proved in 1873, his son William W Stockley being the executor. Edward usually appears in censuses as a basketmaker.

Hope this proves interesting
Rhiannon

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The Lighter Side / Re: Every child with the same middle name?
« on: Sunday 25 September 11 23:11 BST (UK)  »
It's a long shot, but I have some of my family with a very similar name. My great X2 grandfather was a Rice Williams. He was from Amlwch in Anglesey. He married several times, and on at least one marriage certificate he stated his father was an Edward Stockley, and on another Edward Williams. His siblings mostly seem to be known as Stockley, although one is a William Williams Stockley.

His father Edward Williams Stockley also seemed to use the two names interchangeably. On his death certificate he was Edward Stockley and on the last marriage certificate (he married 3 times, only once after 1837) he was Edward Williams. His father he stated was a William Edward (an example of Welsh patronymics). Censuses again show the two names as being interchangeable. A contemporary diary records Edward Williams Stockley's death naming him as Edward Stockla, and another source talks about him as Stockley's man, but we have no idea who this Stockley might be. Have you made any progress in finding out why your family was called Williams Stockley?

Thank you for any help
Rhiannon

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Gloucestershire / Re: Decendant of Guy, Frampton on Severn
« on: Tuesday 24 August 10 16:54 BST (UK)  »
I know its been a long time since you put this notice up on rootschat but I have only just seen it. I am afraid that I don't know of any link between my family of Guys and your Emily Guy. Several people have Emily in their faimily trees on ancestry.com, but I don't know who James' father was to establish a link to my Frampton on Severn Guys. Sorry not to be of any help
David Fear

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Caernarvonshire / Sophia Wrighton otherwise known as Jackson
« on: Sunday 08 November 09 20:21 GMT (UK)  »
On 31 January 1816 my 3X great grandfather William Williams of Caernarfon, a printer, married "Sophia Wrighton, otherwise known as Jackson" in the parish of Llanbeblig i.e. Caernarfon. They had one daughter, Jane, born in Llanfyllin, Montgomeryshire (Powys) on 26-11-1819, who was then baptised in Pendref Chapel in Caernarfon on 30-3-1821. It is also believed that they had a son, William, baptised on 16-2-1817 in Caernarfon. The story passed down by the family is that William and Sophia emigrated to America, leaving Jane in the care of an aunt. I can find no trace of William and Sophia in the UK after 1819. Has anyone any information about Sophia Wrighton or Jackson other than this? Does anyone have any idea what the 'otherwise known as' means? It is possible there may be a connection with Montgomeryshire. Can anyone help?

Rhiannon

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