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Hi Bill & Wendy,

The whole of Drappers Road was one continual terrace on either side of the street (although no 10 next door to us was demolished). When I lived there, the Snell's lived at number 18, which was the start of the terrace on that side of the road due to the demolition of 14-17 after enemy action in WW2.

No 18 had the stairs to the basement to the left as you looked at the front of the house and no 19 to the right (just like the end of terrace in the picture above.

Wendy, if you still cannot see the picture posted above, let me know your E-mail address or other and I will send a copy if you want.

Regards
freddie

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28 & 29 Drappers Road and the backs of houses in Lucey Poad, Bermondsey c 1950/60


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For a couple of other enquiries mentioned in this thread:

The print works of Stanworth Street would almost certainly been a part of the "Metal Box Co". Many metal can & box manufacturers set up in Bermondsey for the packing of food stuffs that Bermondsey was famous for. There were many other printing companies in the Bermondsey & Southwark area and remember that Fleet Street isn't that far away!

Harmsworth Quay (and printers) was used for James Bond, but these are modern sites only created with the LDDC after the Surrey Docks closed.

The houses in Drappers Road did not have bathrooms, central heating or running hot water. Bath time would most probably be Sunday evening, with everyone taking a turn in the zinc tub filled from a kettle (or pots & pans). The outside toilet was quite a long walk from the top floor and cold at night so everyone's bedroom would house a potty, jerry, po or "goesunder" under the bed!

Edit:
Just read Bill's replies above, which confirm my numbering for Drappers Road

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I lived at 9 Drappers Road from birth in 1952 until we moved out in 1966/7 prior to the demolition of the old Victorian "Airey" houses so the council could built the current blocks of flats. The "Airey" houses (named after the architect) were the type with steps down from the street to the basement entrance and another short set of stairs up to the main front door in the style of "upstairs/downstairs - tradesman entrance). The street numbers on the east side of the street would have run from number 1 at the Lucey Road (northern end) to 13 (?) at the Alexis (previously Alexander) Street end. So your relatives home would have been on the other (west) side of the street. I'm not certain, but I think the numbers ran from low at the south/Alexis St end to higher at the north/Lucey St end. I think number 18 was directly opposite us. Number 10 was destroyed during WW2 as was (if my numbering is correct) 14 through to 17.

Drappers Road on OS maps of the period is divided between London sheet 77 (Bermondsey & Wapping) and sheet 90 (Old Kent Road). I think I have only seen one clear picture of Drappers Road on the web and I think that was on Pathe or Getty when a blind/blinded man who lived there was a news feature. I will do a search and see  the pix shows the houses or if there's one in my old "shoe box!"

Edit:
Here's a link to the Pathe news clip showing the north-west side of the street (ie the Lucey Road end):
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=41444

I know I have a photo's of the rear & garden of a couple of houses in the street if they are of interest!

Regards
freddie

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London and Middlesex / Re: Shuttleworths chocolate factory Bermondsey
« on: Sunday 18 April 10 09:00 BST (UK)  »
Extract from the 1914 OS Map. Shuttleworths marked in pink and part of Peek Freans in green. As you can see, Shuttleworths was actually in Rotherhithe!

Moderator comment: image removed because of copyright

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http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/business/copyright/



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London and Middlesex / Re: Shuttleworths chocolate factory Bermondsey
« on: Monday 12 April 10 13:39 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the information and the link it all helps me to create a full picture of their lives, coincidently ancestors worked at Peek Freans too.

I have quite a bit on Peek Freans, my Mum, Dad, an uncle and at least six aunts all work there. At one stage whilst out of work I researched and started to write a history, but that has now been relegated to boxes and files. There is however a DVD of two films of the company: the first a Victorian silent tour around the Drummond Road factory and another from c1989 when it closed.  A recent publication and from memory it was only about £7. Made by Sands Studios (?) it is available on the internet direct from them or on Amazon. If you decide to get it and can't find it, let me know and I find the address for you.


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London and Middlesex / Re: Shuttleworths chocolate factory Bermondsey
« on: Sunday 11 April 10 19:13 BST (UK)  »
I recall Shuttleworths factory in Galleywall Road, Bermondsey. Unfortunately there is nothing now left of the factory, like another large local busicuit manufacturer Peek Freans (just around the corner) it was taken over and the work moved out of London. There does remain however, a small park donated to the council, where the staff often would eat their lunch etc:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/468121

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: St John's School, Wapping.
« on: Sunday 27 December 09 12:43 GMT (UK)  »


A snap I took earlier this year

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Simmons family londons east end
« on: Wednesday 16 December 09 23:38 GMT (UK)  »
talk about impressed !!!!! Firstly thank you very much, where and how did you find the info would be a question and if it is n't to
the info re james ties in with what i have as in the was the land lord of the angel pub 85 high strret Whitecahpel in 1870 ish.
(Ye Old) Angel public House, 85 High Street, Whitechapel:
http://deadpubs.co.uk/LondonPubs/Whitechapel/Angel.shtml

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