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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Thursday 13 October 11 14:33 BST (UK)  »
Kath, Sorry if I confused you. I should have said they were the same family you refered to but since they were alive in 1881 they cannot be the family I am looking for.
Thanks, Jack

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Wednesday 12 October 11 23:33 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Kath,
I was hoping for some lateral thinking but alas this family were alive in 1881. They are definitely same family.

16 Star Street, Broughton in Salford, Yorkshire
Charles Taylor       head 50 widower  Lancs, Liverpool
Miriam Taylor       daur 19             Lancs, Manchester
George Taylor        son  17                   Yks, Bradford
Elizabeth Ellen Taylor daur  13      Durham, Bishop Auckland

I have positively accounted for every Eliza Taylor born in the Liverpool area included in the GRO so perhaps they didn’t register or fill in censuses.

Jack

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 21:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi Toni,
Not conclusively but Church is near Accrington about 50 miles from Liverpool so I think unlikely.
Jack

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 18:45 BST (UK)  »
Jill I have tried that but come up with no one I can tie in with an Eliza Taylor that I cannot eliminate.
Toni the witnesses were my Grandfathers sister and her husband, by this time Eliza would have no known relatives.
Jack

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 18:39 BST (UK)  »
Hello lizdb
I have also posted this on the Lancashire site http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,558712.0.html where I have received several replies and answered them.
Basically my Aunt, Eliza’s daughter told me all I knew about her until I started my research. Sadly she died in 2005 aged 101 and there is no one else to question. She told me the date her mother Eliza celebrated he birthday but was not sure of the year and also told me the facts about her sister and mother although no names were mentioned and she was too frail to press questions for any duration. Eliza was consistently Eliza as was her birthplace Liverpool all of which fitted my Aunt’s information. In 1901 census one week before she married my Grandfather she was staying with my Grandfather’s married sister along with an unmarried sister, every thing fitted. Presuming that the 13-year-old Elizabeth Taylor born Liverpool, also in the York Workhouse 1881 census, was her sister she would soon to be sent out to service at that age and eventually be married. I have no reason to doubt my Aunts word as although frail she was intelligent (ex school teacher) and totally compos mentis.
A search for the marriage of Elizabeth Taylor hopefully in Yorkshire was impossible as the name must be only second in commonality to John Smith.
I  have tried the searches you suggested and eliminated most if not all the Eliza Taylor’s and sent for the most likely certificate that proved to be wrong. The censuses are not consistent enough to be certain but perhaps I should try that again now that I’m more experienced.
Thanks for the suggestions,
Jack

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 11:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Carol,
I'm afraid the birth date and place do not correspond.
Jack

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Lancashire / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Tuesday 04 October 11 10:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi Radcliff
From Ancestry Liverpool records Charles and Catherine do not seem to have an Eliza baptised and it's possible that Catherine was buried 1877. I can't find them after the 1871 census so they are still a possibility.
Jack

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Lancashire / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Monday 03 October 11 21:00 BST (UK)  »
I think Richard has the right Ann Taylor so its a dead end.
The only other relevant information in marriages were witnesses and they were her husband's family
Eliza was always born Liverpool in censuses except 1911 when she was born York but that was when her husband filled in the form, he met her in York where his sister had moved to from Middlesbrough.
Jack

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Lancashire / Re: Brick wall at Grandmother
« on: Monday 03 October 11 19:47 BST (UK)  »
St Mary Hale ,1874 un named Taylor, child of Ann Taylor single woman

abode Speke,
Un named usually means they died but it's worth seaching for an Ann who was in York district 1881
jack

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