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Roxburghshire / Researching Scotts in Hawick
« on: Wednesday 09 July 14 15:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I'm  researching my Scott family in Hawick - and have come across something I don't understand inthe parish birth records. A father (in 1707) is referred to as:
John Scott distinctio causa called Cloaks
Does this just mean a person of distinction and is Cloaks a title or address. I've found a Robert Scott of Cloak but he was in the previous century. Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

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Roxburghshire / Re: Gideon Scott - 1765 Hawick millwright
« on: Thursday 03 July 14 13:11 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for looking Lesley. It's a shame the hub doesn't look like it has what i'm looking for but I'll still visit some time soon to see where my ancestors lived. I was hoping to find a local historian with interest in the Hardens. Also I've seen interesting things in the transaction of the Hawick archaeological society that have looked interesting - I presume there's a full set there. It's really tiny clues that can help - there weren't many Gideon Scotts around so it may be possible to work out which mine is. Their are two born to Francis's for example which was a Harden name then my William called one of his sons Francis.
Also I thought ownership of property might help. My elder Gideon was born in Wester Alemoor and the Hardens had title Lord Alemoor so that might help as well. It would be great to actually establish this link as the Scott DNA surname project would then have Sir Walter Scott's haplogroup.
Thanks again.
George.

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Roxburghshire / Re: Gideon Scott - 1765 Hawick millwright
« on: Wednesday 02 July 14 23:06 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Lesley - I've already had a good look through there which is interesting but doesn't help.
Looking further it doesn't look like this Gideon is the brother of William and James. I've also had contact from someone with a history of my Scotts starting mid 1800s that claims they were descended from the Scotts of Harden.
My William was born at Parkhead in Roberton to Gideon Scott in 1772. This (by sheer proximity) could be the Gideon Scott born in Wester Alemoor in 1729 (he also had a son Mungo who later had another Gideon). I've looked at all Gideon Scotts born in Scotland 1650 - 1780 and there aren't many. A few in Edinburgh that look like noble Hardens and the rest clustered round Hawick. Fathers are Gideons, Francis's, Walters and Johns - and it looks like they're all Harden descendants named probably for Sir Gideon Murray.
Putting together the different lines is tricky and is next to impossible to prove with records I can access on line.
Really appreciate any advice on what other records may help or a good way to proceed.
Thanks.

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Roxburghshire / "Whitegates" in Hawick
« on: Thursday 26 June 14 09:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I have several births (all Scotts) in the early 1700s at 'Whitegates' in Hawick.
Does anyone know where this was?
Thanks.

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Roxburghshire / Gideon Scott - 1765 Hawick millwright
« on: Wednesday 11 June 14 10:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I have Gideon Scott b1765 in Hawick to Gideon and Mary Scott. He became millwright and something of a local celebrity. I suspect (and would really like to prove) that his parents had subsequent children William b1772 and James b1774 in Borthwickbrae (the records for these just show the father as Gideon Scott). They became joiners and moved south. William was involved with the Liverpool Manchester Railway and James died in Cheshire aged 91!
I'm happy to go up to the Heritage Hub if there are likely to be receords that will help.
Thanks.
George Scott. (William is my gggg grandfather)

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Help wanted James Scott and Mary Hindmarsh
« on: Tuesday 05 May 09 11:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I've hit a brick wall with my g g g grandparents. James Scott was born in Scotland in 1799/1800, came south and married Mary Hindmarsh (b1797). In 1817 they were living in Belsay (I think he was working on the building of the Hall). He was presbyterian and I haven't managed to find the marriage (probably cross-border). They had two children at Belsay (Jane, 1818 and Thomas, 1819) then another child Mary Ann at Wylam in 1823. The final Northumberland child was William in 1826 (census says Newcastle, not found the parish record). They then went over to Lancashire with George Stephenson where James was a superintendent on building the LMR at Olive Mount and later at Whiston Plane - he later became station master in Manchester.
I am looking for the marriage and trying to identify the correct Mary Hindmarsh - I have located various possibilities from Ryton and Simonburn born at the right time and with families  containing names Jane, Thomas and William (also Isabella was another later child born in Lancashire).
I'm also interested in a possible link with Elizabeth Hindmarsh who married George Stephenson (the engineer) in 1820, as James and Stephenson were friends -so Mary and Elizabeth _could_ be connected.
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks.
George Scott.

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