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Photo sent to Evant.

Good luck with the project!!

Cheers,
Tim L.

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Evant and Sabet,

If you would like to contact me, I can send you a photograph of Aime Verpillot.

You'll find our research website at www.fromelles.net (it's the Descendant Database listed on your school network).   If you send me an email from there, I'll get back to you asap.

Tim L.

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World War One / Re: Fromelles missing - HUNGERFORD (Qld)
« on: Friday 08 April 11 16:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tahu,

I'm one of the Project Leaders of the Fromelles Descendant Database.   
I've been a bit absent from here of late because of all the work I've currently got on and I know I'll get distracted by all the interesting research that goes on here :-)

The people here on Rootchat have been invaluable to our research to try and track down descendants of the missing Australian soldiers recovered from the mass graves at Pheasant Wood.   

The FDD is a volunteer research project set up to assist in tracing these descendants with the hope of identifying as many remains as possible.   As you may know another 14 have just been identified taking the total to 110 out of 250.   There's still plenty of work to do but I know there are still a great many descendants waiting to have their DNA compared in the next rounds of testing so here's hoping there's still many more identifications to be made.

Is there anything specific you would like to know about our work?   I'm quite happy to answer any of your questions or alternatively you can email me directly from our website.

Cheers,
Tim L.

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World War One / Re: Fromelles missing - William Wass
« on: Tuesday 03 August 10 03:39 BST (UK)  »
Agree totally with starting a specific thread.   Perhaps a few of these last posts could be transposed into it at the beginning so the train of thought isn't lost. (is that possible?)   

It's a discussion that's well worth having and there are some valid points that Howard has brought up that I've also beenquestioning over the past few weeks. 

In answer to your last post Howard,

Yes, there was a very small number of remains from whom no DNA sample was able to be extracted.   Therefore it leaves us with the open-ended possibility of them being anyone who went missing during the battle and thus no soldier can be ruled out whether an mtDNA match was successful or not.

Re: Wass.   Although you have identified an mtDNA descendant, do you know whether that person registered with the AFPG?   The frustrating thing about this is that it is up to the relative to approach them and offer their DNA rather than the other way around.

You are correct, those without known graves do form a 'priority' type list but it's been shown that it's not exclusive as some with graves have now been proven incorrectly named (although I'd like to think that's only small in number).   Indeed those listed on the Villers Bret Memorial were taken into consideration from the outset.   It was realised early on that they only appeared at VB because of a records technicality that listed their date of death the day 'after' the battle.   We suspect the reason for this is because that particular battalion called the roll on the following day and all those found missing were nominally alloted that date.   Hence they missed out on being included at VC Corner.

I am currently attempting to obtain a list of soldiers names from the AFPG for whom DNA has been submitted as this doesn't breach any privacy issues.   Obviously I couldn't ask for the names of descendants who had submitted it.   I'll let you know if/when I obtain it.

Cheers,
Tim L.


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World War One / Re: Fromelles missing - William Wass
« on: Monday 02 August 10 10:03 BST (UK)  »
Sorry Howard but the list you are referring to is massively incomplete and obviously well out of date.   William WASS most certainly IS on the list of those thought to have been buried at Pheasant Wood and has been on it for quite some time.

He is one of those men who almost certainly is now in the Pheasant Wood Cemetery.

At this stage no soldier has ever been excluded from potentially being on the list and the basic theory utilised still remains that it's far better to be inclusive rather than exclusive.   The only soldiers not considered for the list are those with known graves unless a fair case can be shown that there burial is questionable.   Indeed, in the past twelve months, we have suggested five soldiers with 'named' graves be included as possibles and the Australian Fromelles Project Group were quite obliging and willing to accept them.

Cheers,
Tim L.

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World War One / Re: Fromelles missing - CURRAN (b NSW, enlisted Brisbane)
« on: Monday 25 January 10 02:38 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to Sandra for letting me know about the update.   For some reason my emails don't let me know there's been a post on this particular thread - I must not be subscribed for some reason???

What fantastic news and great work by Mum Mum.   It certainly seems that being a professional cook, this Catherine would likely be Joseph's mother as we knew that was her 'profession'.   Therefore I'd say that a search for descendant's of Michael and Ann is most definately the way to proceed.

While I'm dropping in, I'd just like to let everyone know that our work has been well received by the media (as shown by Sandra) and we are continuing to make strides forward.   For this we are greatly indebted to everyone here for your continuing support and wonderful assistance.

Of the 250 bodies recovered from the mass graves, we have been advised that the vast majority are Australian soldiers.   We have also heard that of the 250 remains, after testing, the vast majority yielded viable DNA.   Therefore, should we be able to locate appropriate descendants for DNA matching, a great possibility exists for many of these men to regain their identities.   If this should happen then everyone here can feel very proud that they have played a part in helping to restore these men back to their families.

Cheers,
Tim L.     

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World War One / Re: Fromelles Missing - George HONEY
« on: Tuesday 13 October 09 12:09 BST (UK)  »
Tjapaltjarri,

As far as I know, we've never received an email from you?    It's possible (but unlikely) that among the large volume of emails we've been receiving lately, we might have missed yours but I doubt it.   If this happens to be the case then you have my apology.   Otherwise please feel free to try again and I'll get back to you ASAP.

Cheers,
Tim L.

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World War One / Re: Fromelles missing - Douglas Caswell
« on: Friday 21 August 09 06:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Deborah,

Unfortunately, none of the photos on our website are of Douglas - his image is one that we are still searching for.

We have had contact with one other descendant via his sister Nelly and are very keen to be in contact with you also.   

You'll find our email address from the website at www fromelles net    I look forward to hearing from you. (This website and User are no longer contactable Aug 2015)

Cheers,
Tim L.

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World War One / Re: Fromelles missing - GOULDING (Qld/NSW)
« on: Wednesday 24 June 09 16:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi Benjamin,

I'm really keen to hear from you!!!

You can contact us through our website at

The link to the fromelles database has been removed whilst we locate the new website link 2019 http://web.archive.org/web/20100409162945/http://www.fromelles.net

to discuss where you fit into the Goulding story and how you are be related to John Joseph GOULDING.

I can offer you quite a bit of information about him.

Cheers,
Tim L.

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