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ethel atherton - james still were my grandparents  uncle john married lily who was my mum mays sister who married peter  john had 4 children kenny 73  john 69 jean 62 and stephen 49  peter had 5 pam who died  joseph 62 ( me ),susan 59 peter 56  and david 49. uncle lennie married joan ? had 2 kids sorry i cant remember their names   my eldest living relative alive is aunty nancy who lives in cwmbran one of my mums other sisters there was 5 girls on her side  i never knew i would have had an uncle george .  also barnety lynch was related to ethel i remember visiting him in norris green  must have been about 1951/52  i know  grandad james came from scotland  and somewhere in there is a granny lammond hope this helps