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Durham / Death in South Shields in "The Monthly Magazine"
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 22:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi folks,

I've found the mentioning of a death in the "The Monthly Magazine" (Viewable online on Google Books) under "Provincial Occurances".

The death, in the 1st August 1822 issue on page 89, merely says "At South Shields" and "47, Mr. Nelless". I think it must actually be a misprint, the only burial I could find in the Bishop Transcripts in 1822 was for a Jane NELLES aged 47, known and already in my tree and would be a Mrs. not a Mr.

What i really want to know is, how did one go about getting occurrences like this printed in the Monthly Mag? Why this one above others?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: In the presence of...
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 16:30 GMT (UK)  »
Have you ever found William & Catherine on a census to know what age she said she was? Could it be that the child was baptised Maria Anna to satisfy the family name sequence, but was known as Catherine?

I haven't been able to find a William & Catherine FOX anywhere.

The only baptism in the I.G.I, in South Shields, for a William FOX is in Sep 1812 - which is obviously way too late. The mother however is an Ann Stote CROFTON....and there is a Robert Stote FOX in the 1881 census born circa 1820 in South Shields....which could be the son of William and Catherine?  Or maybe Stote is so common I am just chasing my tail.

By the way josey, your cats are beautiful.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: In the presence of...
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 16:05 GMT (UK)  »
Just a thought - if Catherine was a daughter of this marriage [1805] would she not be a bit young to be getting married in 1819?

Josey

For what reason would the registrar mention parental consent other than her being under the age of consent?

I have a Maria Anna, christened as daughter to James NELLES and Catherine, born 12 Nov 1806. This Catherine married on 3 Sep 1819 - a 12 year, 9 month, 21 day gap.  Is Maria Anna a variant of Catherine?  The age of consent for girls in 1819 was 12, wasn't it?

I'm getting desperate now  ;D I guess I will start trawling the B.T's to see if this Catherine and William FOX had any children (the I.G.I. only goes to Dec 1812  :'()

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: In the presence of...
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 15:06 GMT (UK)  »
I've been able to confirm that there was both a Richard White and a James White born to a Richard and Elizabeth White in South Shields in the 1780s so theory on that one is looking good.

I'm of the opinion the middle initial is an S - compare it with "Sept". Perhaps this stands for STRATFORD  ::)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: In the presence of...
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 14:31 GMT (UK)  »
Richard WHITE is turning out to be equally as useless.

I suspect that this Catherine NELLES is either a possible daughter of James NELLES and Catherine STRATFORD (m. 18 Sep 1805 at St. Hilda's, South Shields according to the I.G.I. but the bishop transcript is missing) or Catherine got remarried. If she got remarried, I don't see why she would need her parents consent though so a daughter seems more likely.

James NELLES had 2 daughters which were born in Seaton Sluice, Northumberland , which comes under Earsdon parish, and Catherine STRATFORD had a younger sister Ann.

... there is an Ann STRATFORD and a James WHITE married in Earsdon By North Shields, Dec 1807 (Bishop Transcript is useless). So perhaps Richard WHITE is a brother of James and therefore this Catherine NELLES's uncle-in-law  ???

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: In the presence of...
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 14:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thomas Isaac INNS?  ???

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: In the presence of...
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 14:00 GMT (UK)  »
If anyone wants to compare handwriting elsewhere on the page, this can be found at http://www.rootschat.com/links/073w/ Durham/ South Shields/ 1816 - 1825/ image 240.

Jennifer

Thanks for that! I should have done that  :-[

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: In the presence of...
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 13:47 GMT (UK)  »
Could the letter at the beginning of "Isaac", what I thought was a D, be a Q?
Quiggins is all I can come up with with that, and that doesn't look possible either.

[Edit] I suppose this being a transcript the transcription could be wrong.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: In the presence of...
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 13:33 GMT (UK)  »
Definitely Thos. Surname, try Dawkins.

I had that thought but I came to the conclusion it was unlikely to be DAWKINS.

This marriage is in South Shields, Durham and there are only a couple of hits for Dawkins' tied to South Shields on the census's searchable at Ancestry, and only a handful all told in Durham and Northumberland in the I.G.I

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