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Thank you, amondg, 3 other sibs are Thomas, Edward and Grove.
Graham, a godfather was not actually thought of.  We are still researching so your second suggestion may also come in there.  Thank you, I'll contact the rellie and see what he thinks.

What had puzzled us was the Broadhurst (Betty), wife of Thomas, whom we have not yet connected to the family, though it is obviously the best possibility.  As I told my rellie, new records are coming on line all the time so maybe we'll get an answer later.  It is so easy to assume probabilities - but so disheartening when they turn out not to be true.

Stay warm!

lydiaann

Thankyou, 2Harriet.  I was on holiday for the first 10 days of October and only just go round to checking this.  It seems you have provided several hours' worth of 'hunt and peck' around these names.  It also appears that the majority of Dumfriesshire was divided up into 'estates', there is so much to mull upon here; definitely a stay-at-home, sit by the radiator type of job.  And all just for the sake of one antecedent!!  Still, if I should chance upon a hit, I may be able to trace in more detail.

Thank you, again...and I hope hubby is enjoying a well-earned retirement.  Being a Roofer is a hard-enough job, what it's like in NE Scotland with all that weather is difficult to imagine!!

All this talk about wills reminds me of my late brother and prompts me to remind people of something very important.

My big brother (BB) and his wife of 30 years separated (aside: he should not have waited 30 days to get rid of her!). He eventually met a young lady - 25 years difference in age! - and then had to wait for nearly 5 years as his wife kept NOT signing the divorce papers, despite the courts putting everything through with a lot in her favour. However, as soon as BB really settled in with his (later) wife and she fell pregnant, he made a will that was watertight against wifey no. 1 claiming his Military Pension (which she had threatened).  Child was born and, 6 years later, no. 2 joined them.  They were deliriously happy.  One week after No. 2's 6th birthday and the day before Father's Day, BB died suddenly, such a shock to all concerned as he had not been ill.  And here comes the problem.  BB did not know (still surprises me) and no-one told him that, on his marriage, his will was null and void and he should have made a new one - even if it was exactly the same.  Fortunately, my SIL had a very good lawyer but it still took around 3 months for the courts to acknowledge that the intention was there that she should inherit.  Fortunately, the current account was in joint names so that automatically transferred to her; however, as her first child was seriously challenged, she was unable to work and for that time she was only receiving government allowances for herself and the children.  As usual, the insurance companies took their time - and one of the holiday insurance companies (they were due to go 6 weeks later) kept asking for more and more documentation until she got lawyers to demand it for her.

So here is the warning: if you have a will and you enter into a new marriage, that will is INVALID. Having seen the stress that SIL was under on top of grieving and ensuring the children were well (in fact, as with my other SIL, it is apparent that widowed parents of young children do not have an opportunity to grieve properly until their children have gone through the process and 'come out the other end'), I beg you to tell anyone who might be affected in this way to do the right thing.  One never knows what will happen.

And to my two beautiful BBs, still miss you so - RIP.

I wonder if some kind soul would be good enough to look up a location for me, please, as I don't have access to the 1921 census.  I am trying to complete the timeline of my grandfather and am not sure whether he had already moved from Lincolnshire. He was in Ticknall as Gamekeeper to Sir Francis Burdett in 1912 but in Kirkstead, Woodhall Spa in 1913 as gamekeeper to Rev. C. T. Moore (his cottage is still occupied but much altered since then!) After 1913, there don't seem to be any Directory entries until 1925 when he is back in Derbyshire, this time in Tissington, Gamekeeper to H. J. Wigram.

Andrew Craven, b. 1881 Banchory-Ternan, Kincardineshire, Gamekeeper
family:
Lydia Craven (nee Houghton), b. 1881 Melbourne, Derbyshire.
Andrew Harris Craven, b. 1905 Foremark, Derbyshire
Dorothy Eleanor Craven, b. 1906 Milton, Derbyshire (reg. in Burton)
Gwendoline Mary Craven, b. 1910 Milton, Derbyshire (re. in Burton)

It is possible that Andrew Harris may have been at the same address as he, too, became a Gamekeeper. I believe Dorothy Eleanor (my mum) may already have left home to become an apprentice with Affleck & Brown in Manchester, but Gwendoline Mary would have been with her parents.

Andrew and Lydia retired in 1947, moving once again to Woodhall Spa - where my mum brought me and my 2 older brothers to live with them when my father died in 1951.  As I said, this one move should complete the circle of my grandad's life and I would be eternally grateful if I could just have even the village where he was in 1921. 

Thanks in hope, Chatters.