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Dang!,   but thanks.

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Hi, Delighted to find folks looking for Hugh Baldwin b abt 1916 in Dublin. He was my 2nd great grandfather. I have marriage certificate 2 Aug 1840 when he married Ann Bentley in Halifax. Census info said he was from Ireland and cordwainer. Died in Bradford 4 Jan 1863.

An other gentleman and I have come up empty handed in looking for birth but on the marriage certificate it says is father is Hugh Baldwin occupation Custom and Excise. My mother handed down what turned out to be a fairy tale of the family disinheriting him for eloping and marrying. Stories abounded of him being an educated man but on his marriage certificate both he and Ann just marked Xs. My details as far as they go are on pickfamily.com.

I never heard of a brother George, so if folks can add to info on both Hughs I would be delighted to hear.

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Cumberland / Re: McGrath's Whitehaven
« on: Tuesday 21 June 11 23:20 BST (UK)  »
Now knowing that Findmypast doesn't know how to read "Mc" I see there are several McGraths on the 1891 census. William McGrath and family from Whitehaven and Constanine McGrath from Ireland.
If you are searching for McGrath, try Grath and in the 1891 I found two instances. I just did a quick check from 1841 just using Grath and birthdates spaced 20 years apart and a span of +-10. It is worth a try if all the rest fails. I didn't check 1901 and 1911
Steve

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Cumberland / Re: McGrath's Whitehaven
« on: Tuesday 31 May 11 21:24 BST (UK)  »
Linda,
Sorry. I start with Joseph Graham 1878 who married Margaret McCourt and they had 6 kids. Margaret Ann, Joseph, Albert, Mary Elsie and John. By 1911 they had moved to Barrow, where I grew up.
Margaret McCourt was my grandmother's (Bridget aka Annie) older older sister. I just scanned Colin McCourt's book and I didn't see a McGrath mentioned. I agree about conditions that existed there. Colin dwells on some of the mine safety issues of the time. The books is a paperback with 108 pages.
Regards Steve

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Cumberland / Re: McGrath's Whitehaven
« on: Tuesday 31 May 11 18:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi Linda,
Just came across your note while looking for something else in Whitehaven. Did you know that Colin McCourt wrote a book about New Houses and life in the 1800s for the miners. Google "Newhouses A Celebration Colin McCourt".
He has written a second book but I don't have it yet. The McCourts are also in my line and I have been trying to see their tree from Whitehaven to Durham and have quite a bit of information.
Sorry but no McGraths. Just O'Neill, McGee, Wear, Ross, Graham, Hully, Fitzimmons, Blakey, Burney, Carruthers, Gill, Hawkins, Hutchinson, McClarney (sp?), Unthank, Wilkinson
Regards
Steve

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Hi BumbleB,

A question on the coverage or intent of StaffordshireBMD site. I see Willenhall Staffs is covered under Wolverhampton on FreeBMD. I don't see it listed under http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/ . I looked under FAQ but didn't readily see an answer. Also nothing is listed under Burntwood but I thought I had picked up information in the past from stafford site. Maybe I am dreaming. Do you know what the scope of http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/ is?
Thanks
Steve

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Anyone going to the record office?
« on: Tuesday 24 May 11 16:19 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for both replies. You helped me look for the Staffordshire BMD site and I found two more births for Benjamin (Sr.) and Mary Ann. I haven't worked on the Chilton's for a couple of years or so but had recorded a link back then. Sadly this link didn't work and my hurried search two days ago didn't yield the URL.  I have just found it but I see that Lucy (1880), Agnes (1885) and Benjamin (1888) are not included yet.

It had crossed my mind that maybe a marriage was not recorded but I profess ignorance about how and when marriage was recorded back then. I understand that a lot of folks were married in church and that from 1837 the government had records of all these but I have no idea about when a union might not be recorded. I vaguely understand about folks dashing up to Gretna Green. As a kid back in the 1940s I remember my parents driving us through the village and they must have educated me about it's claim to fame. However, a miner with 4 sons and a 6 year old daughter living in Burntwood must have found it would be difficult to get up to Gretna in 1867

I think for now I will leave further research on this family. My wife's line is via Bemjamin's son, William Henry (1854) and his first wife Sarah Anne Powis.

One fact has emerged with this latest reseach and that is Benjamin fathered 14 children. I think that maybe a record for my trees. We have two children and I can't imagine how folks lived in those days with 14!

Steve in Texas

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Need to find Marriage of Benjamin Chilton (b 1827) and Mary Ann Godridge (b abt Jun 1847) around 1867.
Benjamin's first wife Sarah Anne Powis died in Mar qtr 1866. He had a son Job Joel Chilton in Jun qtr 1868. In the 1871 census he was married to a Mary Ann and the marriage lasted until he died in 1904 and she died in 1905. I can find no marriage on FreeBMD between a Benjamin Chilton or a Mary Ann Godridge. I am pretty sure the lady was Godridge, from Job staying with his grandparents James and Letitia Godridge in 1871 and 1881. Also Mary Ann Godridge (or close spelling) was only one of two or three people in 1861 that had a birth around 1848, were born in Pelsall and called Mary Ann.
I assume the marriage of Benjamin and Mary Ann occurred between Mar 1866 and June 1868. Job was born in Burntwood, where Benjamin was living in 1861 and 1871 on Lichfield Rd. So I assume they were married in Burntwood, or Pelsall where she was living with her parents in 1861

In 1881 the family had moved to Wolstanton.

Can anybody find a record.
Thanks Steve Pick
I wonder if some marriages were never recorded.

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Durham / Re: Birtley,Co.Durham
« on: Thursday 07 April 11 18:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi again Kathleen,
I recently took out a subscription to findmypast and had only used the census records up to now. They do have parish records for Robert Telfer 1878 and Robert (1872). The 1878 one has Isabella as the mother and no father. The 1872 one has Elspeth as the mother and Robert as the father. Looks a bit incestuous! Sarah Jane (1975) and Elizabeth (1880/1) not found yet.

steve

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