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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Entwistle Baptism
« on: Friday 04 April 25 00:01 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Cas, more fantastic help!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Entwistle Baptism
« on: Thursday 03 April 25 22:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I can read some of this part of a baptism

Entwistle, Bk Siddall Street

Can anyone read the middle line at all please?

Thanks, Luke

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Lancashire / Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« on: Thursday 03 April 25 21:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you once again Cas. The person with the family tree shares a little of DNA with me it would seem so thats a good possibility - I've messaged her. The death certificate is well worth me looking into.

Thanks again, Luke

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Lancashire / Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« on: Wednesday 02 April 25 23:10 BST (UK)  »
Apologies Rosie, you are right

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Lancashire / Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« on: Wednesday 02 April 25 22:00 BST (UK)  »
Cas,

some wonderful gems here. The baptism for Mark & Anne is correct. Ellen Duffy is the sister of Abraham Ent so thats certain too.

I'll research to confirm the other things but this is all really great.

Thank you and thank you all!

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Lancashire / Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« on: Wednesday 02 April 25 21:37 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 April 25 12:38 BST (UK)
Abraham and Annie married in 1907  :-\
The 1911 has Abraham bn 1909 and Mark 1910

ENTWISTLE, ABRAHAM       mmn LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 673

ENTWISTLE, MARK       mmn LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 574

Rosie, I have also bought the birth certificates for Jennie and Agnes. Jennie is correct, she was born at another family address. I need to look further into Agnes' as it doesnt yet fit as easily.

As far as the census goes in 1921, it mentions 6 children under 16, Abraham is over 16 at the time so he wouldnt count. That would leave one more child unaccounted for.

ENTWISTLE, ANNIE       LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1911  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 1110

ENTWISTLE, THERESA       LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1912  D Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 1080

ENTWISTLE, JENNIE       LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in OLDHAM  Volume 08D  Page 918
   

ENTWISTLE, AGNES       LYNCH 
GRO Reference: 1918  S Quarter in STOCKPORT  Volume 08A  Page 115
 

Thank you Rosie,

I have bought the birth certificates for Jennie and Agnes. Jennie was born at a family home so she is correct. Agnes is more complicated so I'll need to do more digging to confirm things.

As for the 1921 Census, it mentions 6 children under 16 but the eldest child is aged 19 so there must be another missing child somewhere.

Thanks, Luke

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Lancashire / Re: Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« on: Wednesday 02 April 25 21:23 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: hanes teulu on Wednesday 02 April 25 12:05 BST (UK)
His YoB varies on different docs (1867 or 1877) - census, prison records or 1873, 1867 in newspaper.

There is a death reg
Abraham Entwistle, Mar Qtr 1926, Manchester North, age 59 (YoB c.1867)

Raised an eyebrow when I saw "Toerag" but certainly justified.

Thank you Hanes, I bought a digital copy of the death you've suggested. It could be him but I think it needs more investigation. He is listed as a Foundry Labourer. The witness is A Entwistle, son, living at 13 Anthony St, West Gorton. It could be his eldest, Abraham.

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Lancashire / Tracing the children of a Toe-rag
« on: Wednesday 02 April 25 11:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I have a relative named Abraham Entwistle born in Oldham on 26th May 1877. Abraham was in and out of prison for petty theft, drunken fighting, living on prostitution and neglect of his family.

Rootschat members have helped me in the past to look into his history but I have a new query. The 1921 census lists him again as being in prison in Cheetham, Manchester. By this time his wife Annie, has died (at a work house in Stockport on 27th Nov 1918). The Census lists Abraham as married rather than widower so he must have married again, this is also confirmed by his children's record. The census says he has 6 children aged under 16. These are listed as being aged 3, 7, 8, 10, 11 & 12.

I am aware that Annie and Abraham had 4 children; Abraham b.1902 (on 1921 aged 19), Mark b.1909 (12), Annie Hannah b. 1911 (10) & Theresa b. 1912 (9). This would match roughly with the first 3 but the last 3, and their mother remain a mystery.

I have Annie & Theresa on the 1921 Census living at 15 Fogg Street in Stockport but nothing for the boys or the other children. I have nothing for Abraham either after 1921.

Could anyone see anything that may lead to Abraham after 1921, the fate of his first 4 children, who his 2nd wife may be or his other three children please?

Thanks for your time, Luke

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Lancashire / Re: One Inconsistency
« on: Sunday 16 March 25 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone.

I bought digital birth records for the whole set of siblings this morning.

mckha489, you were right. James is listed as having GREAVES as his mother's maiden name but the other details are correct so it must have been taken down incorrectly due to an accent or local dialect or something but it is him.

All the rest of the family are down as mother's maiden name Reeves when you look at the actual record.

LizzieL & DCB I think the marriage and the baptisms are correct too.

Heywood, great catch with Red Tom Nook - I cannot find it on the map now so its great to see the map you shared.

The things for Mary's family are excellent.

Thanks to everyone for your hard work!

Luke





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