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Travelling People / Re: Pelham Showmen
« on: Sunday 04 December 22 19:00 GMT (UK)  »
I’ve got the cutting somewhere it was handed down in the family but you could probably find it on the newspapers online. She was at Mitchum fair the oldest showman in the business at the time (1920s). Catherine’s sister married Francis Bailey and their daughter married a Bostock

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Travelling People / Re: Pelham Showmen
« on: Sunday 04 December 22 18:04 GMT (UK)  »
Henry’s daughter my My 3times great grandmother Catherine was interviewed by the worlds fair and she said she was born in a wagon (1837) and never lived a day in a house.

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Travelling People / Re: Pelham Showmen
« on: Sunday 04 December 22 18:00 GMT (UK)  »
I’m not sure about whether he was the first of the Pelhams to start travelling it’s possible but there were fairs and entertainment venues in London for centuries including at moorfields so they could have been involved in the business within the city before the roads and wagons were improved in mid 1800s.

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Travelling People / Re: Pelham Showmen
« on: Sunday 04 December 22 17:37 GMT (UK)  »
Sarah Ann was nee Hyatt and she’d been married to a Hall previously. Hope that helps. Henry Pelham was not Henry Randall Pelham BTW that’s a different person.

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Travelling People / Re: Pelham Showmen
« on: Sunday 04 December 22 14:06 GMT (UK)  »
Charles married twice first to Mary Hall who died, he had several children with her then he married Sarah Ann Hyatt also a widow and had one child. I haven’t found any parents for Henry Pelham yet, it’s difficult as there’s another family with similar names as ours but that Henry Pelham was a titled gentleman whereas our Henry was a travelling showman who doesn’t show up in the records in the same way. If you do find anything out please let me know and I’ll do the same. My research has confirmed what my grandmother told me about her ancestors.

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Travelling People / Re: Pelham Showmen
« on: Saturday 03 December 22 21:13 GMT (UK)  »
Henry Pelham travelled with the Pettigrove, Bailey and Bird family fairs. He was originally a baker and had a toy stall and a pannum stall. His daughters married showmen and became wealthy. I’m also descended from him via the Birds and Pettigroves and interested in his ancestry. He always says he was born in 1804 in records I’ve seen. They used to open up in the famous winter fairs in the Royal Agricultural Hall in Islington

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Travelling People / Re: unusual first name
« on: Wednesday 02 November 11 20:40 GMT (UK)  »
I have seen the name Royal given to Traveller Hearns in Middx/ Watford , also seen it written as Riley. Hope that helps

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Travelling People / Re: Help with strange forename please!
« on: Wednesday 02 November 11 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
several Traveller Claydons are listed on northants-familytree website, including a Robert baptism - maybe Sinfoys father?
http://www.northants-familytree.net/travellers.htm

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Travelling People / Re: Bibby Bros Circus
« on: Wednesday 15 June 11 19:36 BST (UK)  »
there are still showmen called Bibby - you could try to find them by using their trade paper "The Worlds Fair"
All showmen subscribe to it. Its based in Oldham UK.
http://www.worldsfair.co.uk/
The editor might run a feature if you get in touch or you could place an advert in the classifieds. Good luck!

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