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Completed Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Hand
« on: Saturday 19 December 09 03:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ambly.
I'll do some more searching.
Regards
Sandra
I'll do some more searching.
Regards
Sandra
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Completed Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: John Henry Hand
« on: Saturday 19 December 09 00:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ambly,
Thanks for your reply. I had found the marriage of John Hand and Mary Wyer, you mentioned. I also found on ancestry.com Free BMD Marriage Index: a marriage for a John Henry Hand 1855 Quarter of Jul-Aug-Sep. District: Grantham (1837-1933 County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire. Thought this could be the correct one date wise, but as usual it doesn't list his wife's name. How would you go about finding that out?
On John Henry's Death Cert. His father's Occupation is listed as a "Farmer." John's parents are not mentioned on his Marriage Cert.
Regards
Sandra
Thanks for your reply. I had found the marriage of John Hand and Mary Wyer, you mentioned. I also found on ancestry.com Free BMD Marriage Index: a marriage for a John Henry Hand 1855 Quarter of Jul-Aug-Sep. District: Grantham (1837-1933 County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire. Thought this could be the correct one date wise, but as usual it doesn't list his wife's name. How would you go about finding that out?
On John Henry's Death Cert. His father's Occupation is listed as a "Farmer." John's parents are not mentioned on his Marriage Cert.
Regards
Sandra
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Completed Leicestershire Lookup Requests / John Henry Hand
« on: Friday 18 December 09 03:30 GMT (UK) »
I am researching my Great Grandfather John Henry Hand. Born in Sproxton Leicestershire,(Listed on his Death Certificate.) England 1856. At age 14 he was working as a General Servant at Rectory Rd, Grantham. Lincolnshire. At age 24 was a Loco Fireman Lodging at 15 Turner St Stretford. Lancashire. England.
In 1882 he left England on the Potosi Steamship arriving in Sydney Australia 26 Nov, 1882. He Married in Penrith NSW Australia. 1884 to Emma Matilda Fragar. John died 22 Sept, 1930. Balmain North. NSW Australia.
What I would like to know, is his parents are listed on his Death Certificate as John Henry Hand and Elizabeth Wyre. I have be unable to find a Marriage for them. If anyone could help me it would be appreciated.
Regards. Sandra
In 1882 he left England on the Potosi Steamship arriving in Sydney Australia 26 Nov, 1882. He Married in Penrith NSW Australia. 1884 to Emma Matilda Fragar. John died 22 Sept, 1930. Balmain North. NSW Australia.
What I would like to know, is his parents are listed on his Death Certificate as John Henry Hand and Elizabeth Wyre. I have be unable to find a Marriage for them. If anyone could help me it would be appreciated.
Regards. Sandra
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Australia / Re: BARNES Family - NSW
« on: Friday 15 May 09 02:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Robyn,
I have researched Joseph pretty throroughly, from when he acquired Yarranjerry Station. That Death you mentioned was a baby born and died 1879. I had a ten year search done for Joseph Samuel Barnes, with BDM there is no death Certificate.
Where I am having trouble, is just when did he arrive in Sydney, and on which ship. Also did his parents come to Australia as well?
Have tried to search Electrol Rolls to no avail.
Regards,
Sandra
I have researched Joseph pretty throroughly, from when he acquired Yarranjerry Station. That Death you mentioned was a baby born and died 1879. I had a ten year search done for Joseph Samuel Barnes, with BDM there is no death Certificate.
Where I am having trouble, is just when did he arrive in Sydney, and on which ship. Also did his parents come to Australia as well?
Have tried to search Electrol Rolls to no avail.
Regards,
Sandra
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Australia / Re: BARNES Family - NSW
« on: Monday 11 May 09 07:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith,
Yes Joseph Samuel & Elizabeth Jane were Married 6 June 1848 Parish of Yass.
Joseph does not have a death Certificate. But his Probate and Insolvency Papers, state he died 16 July 1878. No other information. He is buried at Wagga Wagga. On his grave there is a Plaque stating he was born in London 1824. Emigrated to NSW 1840. I have been unable to find a birth for him in London. Some say he was born in Bletsoe Bedford, but a search of this area has failed to find any record of him, or his parents.
In 1855 Joseph Barnes tendered for a lease of 32,000 acres for Yarranjerry Station was accepted, and he held the station until he died.
Other siblings are John Barnes Born 1812 Bletsoe Bedford. UK. Died 1863 in Cootamundra NSW. Shot by Bush Ranger John O'Mealy
William Barnes Born c1815 ,
Susannah Barnes Born 1816, She arrived on the Bussorah Merchant on the 11 Aug, 1833. She married George Robert Nichols 16 Dec, 1837 in Sydney. Elizabeth Barnes Born c1817. There was an Elizabeth Barnes also on the Bussorah Merchant, but I am not sure if it was her sister.
On John's Death Certificate. Parents are Joseph Barnes & Elizabeth Pickering. And that his father was a Brewer.
Children of Joseph Samuel & Elizabeth Jane Barnes.
George 1850
John 1851
Isabella 1852
Anthony 1855
Emily 1856
Susan 1857
Matilda 1861
Eliza 1863
Joseph 1865
Samuel 1867
Helena 1870
I really want to find Joseph's birth, and his parents.
Regards
Sandra
Yes Joseph Samuel & Elizabeth Jane were Married 6 June 1848 Parish of Yass.
Joseph does not have a death Certificate. But his Probate and Insolvency Papers, state he died 16 July 1878. No other information. He is buried at Wagga Wagga. On his grave there is a Plaque stating he was born in London 1824. Emigrated to NSW 1840. I have been unable to find a birth for him in London. Some say he was born in Bletsoe Bedford, but a search of this area has failed to find any record of him, or his parents.
In 1855 Joseph Barnes tendered for a lease of 32,000 acres for Yarranjerry Station was accepted, and he held the station until he died.
Other siblings are John Barnes Born 1812 Bletsoe Bedford. UK. Died 1863 in Cootamundra NSW. Shot by Bush Ranger John O'Mealy
William Barnes Born c1815 ,
Susannah Barnes Born 1816, She arrived on the Bussorah Merchant on the 11 Aug, 1833. She married George Robert Nichols 16 Dec, 1837 in Sydney. Elizabeth Barnes Born c1817. There was an Elizabeth Barnes also on the Bussorah Merchant, but I am not sure if it was her sister.
On John's Death Certificate. Parents are Joseph Barnes & Elizabeth Pickering. And that his father was a Brewer.
Children of Joseph Samuel & Elizabeth Jane Barnes.
George 1850
John 1851
Isabella 1852
Anthony 1855
Emily 1856
Susan 1857
Matilda 1861
Eliza 1863
Joseph 1865
Samuel 1867
Helena 1870
I really want to find Joseph's birth, and his parents.
Regards
Sandra
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Australia / BARNES Family - NSW
« on: Sunday 10 May 09 06:19 BST (UK) »
Any descendants, of
Joseph Samuel Barnes 1824-1878 and Elizabeth Jane Stinson. 1828-1904.
"Yarranjerry Station" near Wagga Wagga. NSW who is willing to help.
I am trying to trace my G G Grandfather, Joseph Samuel Barnes. But have not been able to find any information of his arriving in Australia. I believe he came in 1840 but cannot find any proof of this.
Also his parents Joseph (John?) Barnes. Born 1786 Bletsoe England and Elizabeth Pickering. Haven't beem able to find a Marriage for them.
Joseph (1824) his brother John born 1812 Bletsoe married Elizabeth King Ellen in 1833 at St. Antholin's London. Arrived Sydney 6 April 1841 on the "Abbotsford" (there were 9 passengers in steerage as well.) perhaps Joseph Samuel was one of them?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
Sandra
Joseph Samuel Barnes 1824-1878 and Elizabeth Jane Stinson. 1828-1904.
"Yarranjerry Station" near Wagga Wagga. NSW who is willing to help.
I am trying to trace my G G Grandfather, Joseph Samuel Barnes. But have not been able to find any information of his arriving in Australia. I believe he came in 1840 but cannot find any proof of this.
Also his parents Joseph (John?) Barnes. Born 1786 Bletsoe England and Elizabeth Pickering. Haven't beem able to find a Marriage for them.
Joseph (1824) his brother John born 1812 Bletsoe married Elizabeth King Ellen in 1833 at St. Antholin's London. Arrived Sydney 6 April 1841 on the "Abbotsford" (there were 9 passengers in steerage as well.) perhaps Joseph Samuel was one of them?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
Sandra
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Bedfordshire / Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« on: Sunday 19 April 09 01:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Guys,
No one has mentioned the Barnes Family in America. So I just thought I might copy what I found in the book Cootamundra Sons and Daughters. A collection of family stories from the Cootamundra District.2002.
Edward Prior Barnes, met Susanna Maria Gordon, daughter of a London solicitor, on a trip to London in 1871. The Married two years later in Balmain and made their home in Cootamundra, where they had 11 children, only seven of whom survived.
Edward Prior Barnes (John 1812 son) left Cootamundra in May 1896 because of ill health and lived in Sydney until his death in 1900. The remains were returned to Coolamundra for burial.
In 1902 Susanna Barnes married John James Miller, whom she had known for 29 years. He was the brother-in-law ot two of Susanna's daughters, Nellie and Hilda.
J J Miller and his wife, Susanna , sailed for Canada, c1903, settling in Vancouver. Before he left Australia J J established a home for his mother, Rebecca and sisters, Mary, Sarah and Jessie, in Sydney.
Six of Susanna's seven daughters (two of them with their husbands, Alexander Archibald and William Miller and families) joined the family in Canada, as did Compton South Miller (although Compton returned after 12 months in Canada).
The youngest Miller brother, Neil, was left in charge of the Miller family property, Littedale.
Maybe this is where the IGI activity comes from, for John Barnes, 1812.
Regards
Sandra
No one has mentioned the Barnes Family in America. So I just thought I might copy what I found in the book Cootamundra Sons and Daughters. A collection of family stories from the Cootamundra District.2002.
Edward Prior Barnes, met Susanna Maria Gordon, daughter of a London solicitor, on a trip to London in 1871. The Married two years later in Balmain and made their home in Cootamundra, where they had 11 children, only seven of whom survived.
Edward Prior Barnes (John 1812 son) left Cootamundra in May 1896 because of ill health and lived in Sydney until his death in 1900. The remains were returned to Coolamundra for burial.
In 1902 Susanna Barnes married John James Miller, whom she had known for 29 years. He was the brother-in-law ot two of Susanna's daughters, Nellie and Hilda.
J J Miller and his wife, Susanna , sailed for Canada, c1903, settling in Vancouver. Before he left Australia J J established a home for his mother, Rebecca and sisters, Mary, Sarah and Jessie, in Sydney.
Six of Susanna's seven daughters (two of them with their husbands, Alexander Archibald and William Miller and families) joined the family in Canada, as did Compton South Miller (although Compton returned after 12 months in Canada).
The youngest Miller brother, Neil, was left in charge of the Miller family property, Littedale.
Maybe this is where the IGI activity comes from, for John Barnes, 1812.
Regards
Sandra
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Bedfordshire / Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« on: Wednesday 15 April 09 06:22 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,
In regard to Joseph Barnes and Elizabeth Barnes being Witnesses to Thomas Barnes and Isabella Stinson's Marriage. I quote. Source: St John's Church of England. Wagga Wagga Parish Register - Marriages.
Marriage Date: 16 Jan, 1866 at Berry Jerry.
Minister: Rev Samuel Fox Minister of the Church of England at Wagga Wagga.
Groom: Thomas Alfred Barnes. Storekeeper of Murrumburrah aged 29 years. born London England.
Father: John Barnes. Storekeeper, Mother: Elizabeth King Ellen.
Bride: Isabella Stinson, spinster of Berry Jerry, aged 23 years, born Cunningham Creek, Father: Samuel Stinson, Squatter, Mother Elizabeth McGee.
WITNESSES: Jos Barnes & Elizabeth Barnes.
In The Stinsons of North Berry Jerry Book. By Barbara Carmichael.
Isabella married Thomas Barnes on 16th Jan, 1866 at Berry Jerry Station. The witnesses at the Marriage were: Joseph Barnes, Thomas's uncle and his wife Elizabeth Jane Stinson., who was Isabella's sister.
Source: Gormly Index (on Microfiche held at CSU Regional Archives)
John Barnes of Murrumburrah, late of Sydney and Melbourne, formerly of 111 Wood St, Cheapside, London. was shot by bushrangers. Aged 51 years. Buried Yass 3 Sep. 1863 - Sydney Morning Herald 10 Sept 1863.
A Fred Allsopp supplied the information that John Barnes was born 27 June 1812 at Bletsoe. some time ago. I have tried to no avail to contact Fred. to establish where he got the information.
Someone call Doug answered a contact of mine. last year saying If Joseph Samuel is the Joseph in his family here is what he has on dated...
They were from Bletsoe, England, and my line (Joseph's brother John) emigrated to Australia, into Canada and finally the U.S.
Descendants of Joseph John Barnes.
1 Joseph John Barnes 1786- 1826
+Elizabeth Pickering
,,,,2 John (Frederick?) Barnes 1812-1863
........+Elizabeth King Ellen 1902-1886
.............3 William John Barnes 1834-1841
..............3 Thomas Alfred Barnes 1836-1902
............. 3 John Frederick Barnes 1837-1915
..............3 Elizabeth Jane Barnes 1839-1839
..............3 Mary Ellen Barnes 1839-1839
..............3 George Robert Barnes 1840-1920
..............3 William John Barnes 1842-
..............3 Edward Prior Barnes 1844-1900
.........................+Susannah Maria Gordon 1851-1927
........2 William Barnes 1815-
........2 Susanna Barnes 1816-
........2 Elizabeth Barnes 1817-
........2 Joseph Barnes 1824-
Regards
Sandra
In regard to Joseph Barnes and Elizabeth Barnes being Witnesses to Thomas Barnes and Isabella Stinson's Marriage. I quote. Source: St John's Church of England. Wagga Wagga Parish Register - Marriages.
Marriage Date: 16 Jan, 1866 at Berry Jerry.
Minister: Rev Samuel Fox Minister of the Church of England at Wagga Wagga.
Groom: Thomas Alfred Barnes. Storekeeper of Murrumburrah aged 29 years. born London England.
Father: John Barnes. Storekeeper, Mother: Elizabeth King Ellen.
Bride: Isabella Stinson, spinster of Berry Jerry, aged 23 years, born Cunningham Creek, Father: Samuel Stinson, Squatter, Mother Elizabeth McGee.
WITNESSES: Jos Barnes & Elizabeth Barnes.
In The Stinsons of North Berry Jerry Book. By Barbara Carmichael.
Isabella married Thomas Barnes on 16th Jan, 1866 at Berry Jerry Station. The witnesses at the Marriage were: Joseph Barnes, Thomas's uncle and his wife Elizabeth Jane Stinson., who was Isabella's sister.
Source: Gormly Index (on Microfiche held at CSU Regional Archives)
John Barnes of Murrumburrah, late of Sydney and Melbourne, formerly of 111 Wood St, Cheapside, London. was shot by bushrangers. Aged 51 years. Buried Yass 3 Sep. 1863 - Sydney Morning Herald 10 Sept 1863.
A Fred Allsopp supplied the information that John Barnes was born 27 June 1812 at Bletsoe. some time ago. I have tried to no avail to contact Fred. to establish where he got the information.
Someone call Doug answered a contact of mine. last year saying If Joseph Samuel is the Joseph in his family here is what he has on dated...
They were from Bletsoe, England, and my line (Joseph's brother John) emigrated to Australia, into Canada and finally the U.S.
Descendants of Joseph John Barnes.
1 Joseph John Barnes 1786- 1826
+Elizabeth Pickering
,,,,2 John (Frederick?) Barnes 1812-1863
........+Elizabeth King Ellen 1902-1886
.............3 William John Barnes 1834-1841
..............3 Thomas Alfred Barnes 1836-1902
............. 3 John Frederick Barnes 1837-1915
..............3 Elizabeth Jane Barnes 1839-1839
..............3 Mary Ellen Barnes 1839-1839
..............3 George Robert Barnes 1840-1920
..............3 William John Barnes 1842-
..............3 Edward Prior Barnes 1844-1900
.........................+Susannah Maria Gordon 1851-1927
........2 William Barnes 1815-
........2 Susanna Barnes 1816-
........2 Elizabeth Barnes 1817-
........2 Joseph Barnes 1824-
Regards
Sandra
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Bedfordshire / Re: John BARNES & Elizabeth King ELLEN & family
« on: Tuesday 14 April 09 06:18 BST (UK) »
Hi John,
Yes I do have John's Death Certificate Reg No. 06635. Died 30 Aug 1863 at Wollenbeen, Burrangong. John was shot and killed by John O'Malley, Bush Ranger. His Father is Joseph Barnes. Occ. Brewer: Mother: Elizabeth Pickering. Where Born England. Time in Colony 22yrs in NSW. Married: London :Age at Marriage 21. Spouse Elizabeth King. Children of Marriage 5 Males 1 Female Living. 1 Male 2 Females Deceased.
Susannah Eliza Barnes Travelled on the Bussorah Merchant Arrival Date 11 Aug, 1833. She Married George Robert Nichols of Sydney a Widower. on the 16 Dec, 1837 Parish of Saint James. I have this Certificate.
Susannah Nichols Died Redfern Aged 30 years on the 12 Nov, 1846 Buried 13 Nov, 1846 Ceremony performed Parish of St, Lawrence Sydney. I have this Certificate.
Joseph Samuel Barnes died 16 July 1878 aged 55 years. Buried Presbyterian Section Wagga Wagga Monumental Cemetery.
Source: Wagga Wagga Advertiser Mr Joseph Barnes so well known in this district is, we regret to hear, very dangerously ill. At the time of going to press no favourable change had taken place and fears are much entertained of his recovery. He is at present staying at the Pastoral Hotel. to secure the best medical advice the town can afford.
Joseph Samuel Barnes is my GG Grandfather( Born 17 May 1824 London. Yet to be confirmed.) Squatter; took up "Yarranjerry" Station (37,000) in Feb, 1856. Married Elizabeth Jane Stinson. 6 June, 1848 Parish of Yass.
On Joseph"s headstone it has him as Emigrated to NSW 1840.
I found an entry for a Joseph Barnes. Arrived Port Jackson NSW 3 Sept 1840. Vessel Name "JANE" Perhaps some one would look this up, as I haven't been able to as yet.
Regards
Sandra
Yes I do have John's Death Certificate Reg No. 06635. Died 30 Aug 1863 at Wollenbeen, Burrangong. John was shot and killed by John O'Malley, Bush Ranger. His Father is Joseph Barnes. Occ. Brewer: Mother: Elizabeth Pickering. Where Born England. Time in Colony 22yrs in NSW. Married: London :Age at Marriage 21. Spouse Elizabeth King. Children of Marriage 5 Males 1 Female Living. 1 Male 2 Females Deceased.
Susannah Eliza Barnes Travelled on the Bussorah Merchant Arrival Date 11 Aug, 1833. She Married George Robert Nichols of Sydney a Widower. on the 16 Dec, 1837 Parish of Saint James. I have this Certificate.
Susannah Nichols Died Redfern Aged 30 years on the 12 Nov, 1846 Buried 13 Nov, 1846 Ceremony performed Parish of St, Lawrence Sydney. I have this Certificate.
Joseph Samuel Barnes died 16 July 1878 aged 55 years. Buried Presbyterian Section Wagga Wagga Monumental Cemetery.
Source: Wagga Wagga Advertiser Mr Joseph Barnes so well known in this district is, we regret to hear, very dangerously ill. At the time of going to press no favourable change had taken place and fears are much entertained of his recovery. He is at present staying at the Pastoral Hotel. to secure the best medical advice the town can afford.
Joseph Samuel Barnes is my GG Grandfather( Born 17 May 1824 London. Yet to be confirmed.) Squatter; took up "Yarranjerry" Station (37,000) in Feb, 1856. Married Elizabeth Jane Stinson. 6 June, 1848 Parish of Yass.
On Joseph"s headstone it has him as Emigrated to NSW 1840.
I found an entry for a Joseph Barnes. Arrived Port Jackson NSW 3 Sept 1840. Vessel Name "JANE" Perhaps some one would look this up, as I haven't been able to as yet.
Regards
Sandra
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