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Hello again and its ann davey.. and yes thats right i think leonard j wakefield was my great grandfather and his parents are my gr gr grandparents so r u sure its as many as 5x lol?
and yes i knew about leonard john wakefield in the army my granny has all his records and application form for it never knew about the museum thing thou, i will have to tell my granny about that and i will email you her address?
take care

hello thanks for that
 there is me, my mum,grandma,gr grandad arthur,gr gr grandma edith, gr gr gr grandad alfred, gr gr gr gr grandad john, gr gr gr gr gr grandad thomas married too julianna carwithin. and i am twice your age plus 10 and my mum is three times your age plus 13 and my grandma would have been four times your age plus 17 this year but she passed in 2005, and arthur was born 1902 and passed in1969 at age 67,edith was born 1879, alfred was born 1849
and john was born in 1826 and thomas married to julianna carwithin was born 1801 and thomas married to esther sommers was born in 1836.

                                               take care speak to you soon
                                                         

Hello, Yes lol thats exactly what my granny said, he was a bit of a lad. and that must be who julia married... and no Florence was adopted by someone else because she was an illegitamate child i think... not sure.

And he married elenor yeadon, yes but my great granny was born 1912 and he married elanor 1915 without his family or her family knowing, and then he died in the war and his family found out.

ask me some questions you may be looking for on the wakefields lol my granny knows all of them.

take care

hello,
                      this is how my tree goes and what i am looking for
edith wakefield married james burtonwood          her parents were
alfred wakefield married ann jane bretland           his parents were
john wakefield married mary cheers                     his parents were
thomas wakefield married julianna carwithin        his parents were
robert wakefield married sarah roberts                 his parents were
thomas wakefield married sarah?                         his parents were?
edward wakefield married isabella gibbons
i need to find a marriage certificate for thomas married to sarah to find out what her maiden name was and that edward and isabella were his parents
to confirm us to this line as i know that edward jerringham wakefield was charles cheers wakefields second cousin and i believe this is how we are connected? but back in those days every thing went to the first son and our thomas was a second son there is a lot of information about there first son edward married to priscilla wakefield but nothing about thomas ?
has granny heard of any of these names?a lso does granny have any pics of any of the wakefilds as i only have a pic of edith wakefield at the moment but ediths youngest son only died last year and having lived in the same house from when he was born i was hoping that he would have had alot of pics and certificates but he didn't

                                                 karen
                                     your wakefield relation

i dont know, her name might be under florence baysin or florence eustace... she married thomas davey

no can't find anthing for those names all i can find is florence m bayliss married thomas g davies 1919 abergavenney and florence b bayliss married edgar t davies tewksbury 1924 no bayliss and daveys

Hello, Oh Yer my granny said something about rebecca brewin, i never knew there was another child though only thought she had one child out there, so leonards father had another child called rebecca nellie wakefield then she died with the other child....

and yes leonard john wakefield was the son of esther sommers and thomas wakefield....

thomas and esther...
leonard john wakefield and julia bayliss (although his name wasnt on the birth certificate as it was all hidden from the parents....

florence bayliss and thomas davey (my grannys mum and dad)

 no rebbeca nellie lived and came back to england thats all i know about her at the min.
i had a look for leonard john wakefied and could only find 1 birth in leeds 1890
and 1 marriage to a elanor yeadon in derby 1915 but can't find any children for them but this might be right as i think what you are saying is that leonard and julia didn't marry?which i find strange ? and had look for florence bayliss and only found 1florence m bayliss born 1912 westham parent bayliss do you know if she was born there?
                                          speak to you soon
                                        and will post the links later
                                                  karen

yeah sure its something to do with esther sommers that were related :S i dont know how i will ring my granny tomorrow and ask her

                 does granny know if esther sussanah sommers married dec 1881 barton regis to thomas wakefield born 1836 derby was his second wife? married before i believe to a rebbeca and has she heard of him ever going to africa?



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