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John William Starkey married Elizabeth Morrison, daughter of my GG Grandfather, John Morrison (1821-????), on 13 February, 1860, here in Cambusbarron. They had 3 children: Elizabeth, born in Kinross in 1860;William, born probably in Cambusbarron in 1862; and Barbara, born, and died, in 1864. Sadly, Elizabeth herself died that same year.

John then married a 'Johann Gancy' on 1st June, 1865, but she seems also to have passed away fairly soon, for John married for the third time on 26 November, 1866, to Christian Marshall: I know of two births here: John Marshall Starkey, b 12 September, 1867, and Janet, b 20 Dec 1868 - both in Kinross.

Of the Morrison - Starkey children, I know nothing more of William.  Elizabeth married an Alexander Crawford (b 1857) but when and where, I don't know. They had 3 children that I know of: William, Christina and John William. About the two males, again, I have nothing, but know that Christina married a James Thomas Angus in Stirling in 1918. They then emigrated to the USA, the husband going in 1923, the wife in 1925. A son, William A Angus, was born there in 1927.

The name Starkey was a prominent one in our village of Cambusbarron (in St Ninians Parish) for a long time, though not so today. A George Starkey ran a grocer's shop here in the early sixties, and a late Starkey lady, who ran a fashionable ladies' clothes shop in nearby Stirling throughout the eighties, was a good friend of my mother-in-law. But the most prominent locally - and further afield - was Bob Starkey, a legendary Highland sportsman: I have many scanned cuttings of his career: here's the entry in a local history book 'A Cambusbarron Tapestry' about Bob:

Starkey, Robert (1890-1956): when he died, this Cambusbarron man was described in the Observer as

the most outstanding heavy events athlete to come out of the Stirling area, and during the period between the end of the First World War and 1926, he was supreme in most events in the Scottish Highland Games circuit.  

He held and broke many records for throwing at Highland Games all over Scotland, and in Army or Services competition. He was also a champion Cumberland Wrestler. His reign might have been longer but for WW1. He became a policeman, then a soldier both during the War and after it, but began his working life in his native village, as a lime miner. In 1924, he was one of the coaches appointed to the British team at the Paris Olympics. And if not in Chariots of Fire, he does feature to this day as the highlander on the front of Scott’s Porage Oats packets – or, at least, his body does: over the years, his ageing face was constantly updated into more modern versions; but the frame remains that of Robert. One former Graham & Morton employee remembers him in his fifties, arriving at the dispatch area at the back of their King Street premises (entered through the Town Wall) and lugging quite comfortably, one in each outstretched hand, two large milk canisters, full of paraffin, to his car, parked several streets away. These, when full, took two G & M men to lift each one – onto a trolley before emerging into the street.

Happy to send you any of the cuttings, etc I have. hope this helps.

PTP


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Stirlingshire / Re: Stripside, Denny, Scotland
« on: Friday 16 March 12 19:33 GMT (UK)  »
Fergy: there was also a Stripeside betrween Cambusbarron and St Ninians - almost certainly a piece of land that ran alongside the Pelstream Burn after it descended from the Gillies HIl, and ran parallel to the the road that became Weaver Row: a Gt Uncle of mine was born there.

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Kinross-shire / Re: COMPLETED: Margaret Starkey ne Morrison death 1862-66
« on: Tuesday 15 November 11 13:16 GMT (UK)  »
Mike: if your Margaret Morrison was born in St Ninians Parish in 1838 to parents John Morrison and Elizabeth, nee Robertson, I'd be interested to hear of anything else you have. I have some details of that family thereafter.

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Stirlingshire / Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« on: Friday 20 May 11 12:14 BST (UK)  »
Eileen: I'm very grateful for the trouble you've taken. Your information is very useful. May I request a brief clarification? Your final 5 names, viz Margaret 1872, Janet, 1875-63, Helen, 1881, Andrew McL,1883 and Agnes, 1886 - what were their surnames/who were their parents/ (sorry!)

Also: what does GLW mean?

Sincerely, many thanks: if I can help you in any way, please ask.

PTP

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Stirlingshire / Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« on: Wednesday 18 May 11 18:23 BST (UK)  »
I'm interested in all of Robert and Helen's offspring: they were all my Gt 4x Uncles and Aunts. Happy to be enlightened on any of them. many thanks,

PTP

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Stirlingshire / Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« on: Monday 16 May 11 14:37 BST (UK)  »
Dear May28: many thanks. Any additional information (dates (of marriages, births etc/names/ etc much appreciated. Happy also to supply you with any info that I might have and that you might find useful.

PTP

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Stirlingshire / Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« on: Sunday 15 May 11 09:45 BST (UK)  »
May: interesting and useful information. Can you clarify something for me, though? That 1783 date for the marriage of Thomas and Helen: was that not Thomas's date of birth? And are the other dates, all dates of the marriages?

Many thanks,

PTP

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Stirlingshire / Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« on: Wednesday 30 December 09 11:18 GMT (UK)  »
Fergie: a great photo. I've got a memory, or a false memory, of that street before the houses were demolished. Is that possible? (I was born in 1950) My Dad was born in  1922 at no 118 Main St.

If you have any information on any St Ninians Patersons, that would be gratefully received - even those of more recent vintage. Having come to family history only recently, like many, I regret not quizzing Grans and Grandads now gone. The other day I discovered the existence of a Great Uncle Alex Paterson, who died only in 1974, aged 84 - whom I have no memory of ever speaking to, let alone being aware of his existence. Yet, he must have been at my Grandad's (his younger brother) funeral in 1965 when I was a teenager.

Thanks again,

Peter




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Stirlingshire / Re: Patersons of St Ninians Stirling
« on: Tuesday 29 December 09 11:32 GMT (UK)  »
Keera: I'd be very interested in these Paterson precursors in Australia. My line descends from Robert and Helen, via James (b 1795), who married Isabella Ewing in 1822, their son, also James ( b June 1828) who married a Mary Paterson  (b 1829 in Dunfermline - yes same name) and had, amongst others, Alexander (b 1860 in Edinburgh), who married Annie Young (b Auchterarder c 1861) They had, amongst others, my grandfather, Peter Young Paterson (b 1897) who married Jane Carrigan (of Craigtoun Cottage, Logie, on Airthrey Estate, now the site of the University of Stirling, b 17 December 1899) in 1918 and had, amongst others, my late father Tommy Paterson, in 1922 - who married my mother Margaret McKenzie Morrison of Cambusbarron, in 1948.

All the Patersons spent most of their lives in St Ninians (indeed, the old St Ninians Main street, now demolished, had many addresses occupied by various Patersons, almost certainly related: which I'm still trying to work out!

I can fill in sibling blanks where I have them, but here I've given my direct line. Anu other info you have would be great.

best wishes,

Peter

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