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Renfrewshire / Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« on: Wednesday 13 April 11 05:25 BST (UK)  »
Sharon and Ann

Meant to add

RootsWeb:SCT-RENFREW- L Archives

Regards....Rae

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Renfrewshire / Re: Robertson/Ewart Brick Wall
« on: Wednesday 13 April 11 05:14 BST (UK)  »
Hello Sharon and Ann
Isabella Robertson and Matthew Paul are on Rootsweb World Connect (shows four children). You may have seen this.
I found six children for Isabella and Matthew by courtesy of Christine Normington's research on Rootweb archives.  They also had a daughter Isabella Paul born c1810 in Paisley married David Swan c1833 in Paisley.
Christine's research is very extensive and you will need to scroll down through the years - almost any mention of Robertson/Paul/Swan is her post.
July 2003 Robertson/Paul
Aug 2003 Poor Laws Isabella Paul (Robertson) 1847 Isabella Swan (Paul) 1849
Oct 2003 John Paul labourer
(Poor law statement for John Paul and his second wife Agnes Johnstone)
Feb 2006 (Renfrew) Paul Family

Kind regards....Rae


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Renfrewshire / Re: Helen Janet and Rebecca Robertson 1851 Census
« on: Monday 01 March 10 00:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Ann
How are you?  Did you receive my PM which I sent on 13 January - also my email re Elizabeth Grosset's birth certificate, sent 27 January.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Regards.....Rae

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The Lighter Side / Re: Great names!
« on: Sunday 28 February 10 23:25 GMT (UK)  »
Our tree has a Florence Nightingale Lamb - but I feel more for her brother who was named James Barr Lamb.  Whatever were their parents thinking?

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Renfrewshire / Re: Helen Janet and Rebecca Robertson 1851 Census
« on: Sunday 17 January 10 23:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Raylene
Did you receive my email sent 15th January.

Regards....Rae

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Renfrewshire / Re: Helen Janet and Rebecca Robertson 1851 Census
« on: Thursday 14 January 10 00:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Raylene
I have been going to contact you as I have read your posts on Genforum with great interest - I've been searching for Grozet/Grosarts for years - and only recently came across my Robertson girls giving Fraser instead of Groset as their mother's maiden name.  Groset was sometimes spelt Groser so thought maybe it was an error when entering the names in the records.  I had three marriage and two death records giving the name Fraser (Helen was married three times) and decided they weren't our girls after I found them living with their grandmother Agness Groset in 1851.  However, desperation drove me to get Helen's last marriage record, and joy and relief, she named her mother as Elizabeth Grosset.
Alexander Groset and Agnes Stacks would certainly fit the naming pattern as parents of our Elizabeth Groset - she may have been their eldest child - and I wonder if the Agness Groset on the 1841 and 1851 is indeed Agnes Stacks.  I haven't found anything yet to prove this.  I haven't found any further record of Agness Groset after 1851, and Helen Robertson moved to Hutchesontown Glasgow between 1851 and 1855 when she married Mathew McDougall.  They had three children who did not survive infancy, and I presume Mathew died as Helen married a widower Peter Steel in 1862 and they had four children.  Peter died in 1870 before their son was born and Helen married another widower James Harper in 1878.
Rebecca married Alexander Crawford in 1862 Hutchesontown Glasgow and they had six children that I know of, one daughter was named Annie Fraser Crawford so they certainly believed they had a Fraser connection.  I wonder if Agness Stacks called herself Annie Fraser?  So many possibilities.
Both girls lived in Reidvale Street, Helen at 163 in 1878 and Rebecca at 207 in 1897 when Annie was married.
Sorry I can't throw any light on your mysteries, but I am working on the Grosets and will let you know any results I get.

Regards....Rae

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Renfrewshire / Re: Helen Janet and Rebecca Robertson 1851 Census
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 01:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ann

I thought 74 High Street would be near the university, and not too far from Castle Street where Wm and Alexander were living in 1851 and 116 George Street where the two girls Helen and Rebecca were living with their grandmother Agness Groset - though I suppose George Street is a very long street.

I confirmed that Wm and Elizabeth Grozet's daughters Helen and Rebecca moved to Glasgow Lanark by 1855 and they were indeed the two girls I had found who gave Elizabeth's maiden name as Fraser on their marriage records. I eventually got Helen's third marriage record to James Harper and joy and relief she showed her mother's maiden name as Grosset.

Sorry I haven't got Gedcom as yet - I struggle with the computer and new programmes and really don't have anyone to help much.  Will be busy for the next couple of weeks with visitors, but will let you know if I work the Gedcom out.


Cheers......Rae

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Renfrewshire / Re: Helen Janet and Rebecca Robertson 1851 Census
« on: Monday 04 January 10 02:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Monica

Thanks so much for your prompt reply. High Street is in the general area where the Robertsons were living, so it well may be that Janet was placed with the Morn family as a power loom weaver.  The Robertson family were all working as weavers and dressmakers etc.
The name Jane McLerie doesn't ring any bells as being a family member though of course she may have been an old family friend who took Janet in.

Thanks again for your help.

Cheers....Rae

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Renfrewshire / Re: Helen Janet and Rebecca Robertson 1851 Census
« on: Monday 04 January 10 00:39 GMT (UK)  »
Two daughters of William and Elizabeth Robertson (nee Grozet)
Helen Robertson born 26 August 1835 Paisley Renfrew and
Rebecca Robertson born c1842 Paisley Renfrew COMPLETED.
They had moved to Glasgow Lanarkshire by 1855 and both married and had families and died in Glasgow area.

Still searching for middle daughter Janet Robertson born c1837 Paisley. I think mother Elizabeth Grozet died before 1849 as father William remarried that year.

I have 1851 SP image for a Janet Robertson (16) High Church Paisley 573/00 011/00 016 and she is lodging with George Morn, clock (or cloak) maker, his wife and daughters and the daughters and Janet are power loom workers. There is no street address at all on this page - can anyone help with the previous page?

Also have a death record 1 July 1908 for Janet Robertson Cloakmaker (70 years) died at Hawkhead Asylum Paisley, unfortunately parents unknown, which fits.

I'm finding it strange that the grandmother Agness Groset was caring for two of the three girls, and my research shows Helen and Rebecca as being very close, living in same areas and naming their children for each other, so maybe Janet died before 1851.

Regards....Rae

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