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Nicola:

thanks for the point by point explanation.

I have ordered the marriage and deaths from Buckinghamshire.

just waiting for the confirmation and to send the monies.

have ordered the death certificate for Eliza Smith, but made the mistake of using An__try.....so it has cost me 3 times the price you had suggested....

realized it too late....but am trying to cancel the order.

either way it is ordered whether it goes through there or through the GRO...

have ordered the birth certicate for Joseph Smith....

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I am TRYING to do as you have suggested, with just the one little hicup ...grr!! but live and learn.

will keep you apprised.

once again I appreciate everyone's help, and for leading me down the garden path, have never tried for such an indepth research before...so I guess that was why I was dragging my feet....but now that I have bit the bullet....I MIGHT be more willing.....to spend money in the future....

and maybe not so dense as to how to confirm things, but really don't think I would have got to this point without EVERYONE'S help....I was happy thinking that he lived in Potterspury...

Happy Thanksgiving or Columbus day to all...if neither, have a nice day.

Sincerely,

Sharon Lamb

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Death of Eliza Smith [nee Read]

I looked once again  this time I have found two possible suggestions for the Eliza Smith [nee Read]
on Find -- Past....

they will cost me 5 credits each.

having never used this site before IF THIS IS THE SITE YOU WANT ME TO USE....will the results be a certificate?

again no point in using it IF I am not going to get the information that we are ALL after.

Again I apologize for being such a pain.

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looked again for the death and don't see anything that matches.

thanks again

:sjl

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Nicola wrote :
If that's the case, it would probably be worth your while to purchase the death certificate of the Eliza Smith I quoted earlier to see if it definately confirms she's Eliza Read.  OK I know you don't like purchasing for just one entry but sorry you will have to do that occasionally as no other way to get the information.  That should definately confirm she died before the 1851 Census.  If it's not her husband who is the informant, chances are it would be one of her relatives as that Eliza Smith is buried in Wicken.


this is the person you are referring to.....

Eliza Smith [nee Read] - DEATH

Wicken P. C.
pg 43 NO. 343
Eliza Smith, Wicken, 12 April 1846, 26


so I would need to contact NORTHAMPTONSHIRE FAMILY HISTORY CENTER??? for this info???


correct????

so just looking to see WHERE I would need to order the marriage and death certicates going by the fact that she married and died in Northamptonshire.

the Northamptonshire Family History Center says this info is available at FIND __ PAST..

so I looked there and I don't see any matches.

if that is the case WHY would I go to the effort of ordering something that is probably going to be wrong?

again not trying to be a DELIBERATE pain....just trying to follow your directions but don't seem to be able to complete the orders....ha ha

:sjl

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[b Nicola said:
As for baptisms, you're interested in the Thornton and Whaddon Smiths, but again you could do with getting the marriage and burial searches for the same period to double check who married and who perhaps died young.
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we are looking for Thomas Smith the father and son???? correct???

the son Thomas Smith  - who married Eliza Read born  around 1817

and his  father Thomas Smith born about circa 1797.....and was a gameskeeper [ according to the marriage certificate of Eliza Read and Thomas Smith.
correct.

okay so looking in this time frame on the Whaddon, Buckinghamshire, England - Baptisms.

I find

a thomas smith baptised 28 Aug 1796 son of William & Ann Smith

Prior to that the first Thomas listed was baptised 6 Mar 1763 son of Thomas and Aina Smith of Nash - I presume this is too early to be the right one

  the next Thomas Smith was baptised 20 Nov 1803 son of Thomas & Mary Smith of Nash

the next Thomas Smith was baptised 29 April 1821 - baseborn ??? - son of Catherine Smith of Roundhill Singlewoman

the next Thomas Smith was baptised 6 Sept 1840 son of William & Sarah Smith of Nash, LABOURER

none of the other baptism has an occupation with the information

so this is PAST the possible birth of Thomas Smith who married Eliza Read.

so we are NO further ahead, are we?  other than eliminating Whaddon as the place that he was baptized....?

:sjl

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As for baptisms, you're interested in the Thornton and Whaddon Smiths, but again you could do with getting the marriage and burial searches for the same period to double check who married and who perhaps died young.

am I allowed to post on here what I got from BUCKINGHAMSHIRE....hopefully it IS BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, that I am suppose to looking at.

:sjl


Just looked at Thornton, Buckinghamshire, Baptisms.

there are only three families listed in the baptisms.

Henry & Mary Smith in 1784 and 1786

Thomas & Maria Smith with 8 children covering 1820 to 1840 - he is a labourer
they live in Thornton
one child is
Thomas baptised 7 april 1822

and Mathew & Sarah Smith  with one child Flora [ I think it is safe to say this is NOT the family were were looking for...


does any of THIS help?

:sjl

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As for baptisms, you're interested in the Thornton and Whaddon Smiths, but again you could do with getting the marriage and burial searches for the same period to double check who married and who perhaps died young.

am I allowed to post on here what I got from BUCKINGHAMSHIRE....hopefully it IS BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, that I am suppose to looking at.

:sjl


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is THIS the one you are referring to.....

sorry, double and triple checking that I am following the correct folks.

thanks

:sjl

1850   3   SMITH   Thomas   Potterspury   15   525       JONES   Hannah   30   Sep   1850   Passenham with Deanshanger - St Guthlac   107   NRO

No, not unless you want to double check Marilyn's details as she's quoted this marriage on, I think, page 2 of this posting.

not trying to be hard to get along with but thought this is what you had suggested in your message 30..... which is where I was getting the info from

This is the one I'm suggesting:
in the same message 30....you stated ANOTHER OPTION  is the following
I like the look of the Thornton/Tattenhoe family

There is a register office marriage of
Thomas   SMITH   of Whaddon, Bucks, labourer   Sarah   MITCHELL   of Wicken, widow   1847
Notice was given of the intended marriage at the Potterspury register office
(source a publication by the Eureka Partnership)

You ALSO said that this was MOST LIKELY -  MY THOMAS' FATHER remarrying...

However, I can't find a marriage registered in 1847 for them at Potterspury, the nearest I can find is:

Thomas Smith
Sarah Mitchell
March qtr 1850
Winslow Registration District
6  485

There is an 1847 marriage of a Thomas Smith in Potterspury Registration District, but the only Sarah listed on the same reference is a Sarah Alcock.  It's possible that they didn't marry in 1847 but left it until 1850.

In light of that, and hoping it's not a Registry Office marriage as I doubt they'd be included, you may be best ordering marriage and burial searches from Bucks FHS for Smith and variants for the same period you ordered the baptisms.  With a bit of luck it may appear, if it doesn't you may have to order the above marriage certificate.

is it possible we are both getting confused.  again sorry to be such a pain, but no point in ordering the wrong thing....

:sjl


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Brilliant Nicola.  :)

The only way to confirm a person's lineage is as you say by buying the relevant
certificates.

Much better if you can purchase a copy on Anc**** or your local Library in
our case for 80p each against £9+ from the G.R.O.

Lets hope the rightful Thomas Smith is solved.

Another link for Bucks Marriages would be here, just search database.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0lx0/

Sandy

is THIS the one you are referring to.....

sorry, double and triple checking that I am following the correct folks.

thanks

:sjl

1850   3   SMITH   Thomas   Potterspury   15   525       JONES   Hannah   30   Sep   1850   Passenham with Deanshanger - St Guthlac   107   NRO

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just going through the postings,

so do we, that is the royal we, need any info from the baptisms in Buckinghamshire?

if so, from WHAT area....sorry trying to sort through what you folks decided I needed is getting a little muddled .....in MY brain.....

anyone else need any info off the baptism list.....it is here so might as well use it.

Sharon

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