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Renfrewshire / Re: Thomson Family
« on: Sunday 15 April 07 16:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi Trish,

sorry for not explaining the "dates" better. :-[

In the document it reads,
"May 16th, George Thomson and Katherine Cochrane both in this Parrish gave in their names to be proclaimed which was accordingly done." and in the side bar it reads, 2 Days.

I did see that SP's offer and I have taken advantage of it.
Very generous of them.

Unfortunately, there is no hi-speed access where I live here in Nova Scotia.

It has finally quit snowing and the sun is shining for a change, so I think I'll give my eyes a bit of a rest and get outside and enjoy it while it lasts.
 :)

Tony


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Renfrewshire / Re: Thomson Family
« on: Sunday 15 April 07 15:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi Trish,

The name got carried on for at least a couple of generations.
Hector named a son, Hector Cochrane and his grandson by his son John, called a son Hector Cochrane.

I had my first experience with ScotlandsPeople this morning.

I must say that one should have a good idea of what and who to search or one could spend their money very quickly.

Also, hi-speed internet would be a great asset.

I take it that the date they give is not the marriage date.

For example, on George and Katherine's "marriage" notice, it mentions 2 days where on another couple's, it mentions 3 days ???

Tony

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Renfrewshire / Re: Thomson Family
« on: Sunday 15 April 07 02:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Monica,
 thanks for the info. Those would be the Christening dates.

And thanks Trish, for your help.

I Googled Scottish naming patterns and the results I got would fit the 6 children listed.
One result said that if a child died, sometimes they would use the name again for another child's name
But either way the names match up.
==================
1st Son named after Fathers Father--William-c-29 Jun 1823

2nd Son named after Mothers Father--Hector-c-21 Nov 1824

1st Daughter named after Mothers Mother--Catherine-c-15 Apr 1827

3rd Son named after Father--George-b-18 Sept 1829, c-04 Oct 1829

2nd Daughter named after Fathers Mother--Margaret-b-05 Jul 1831 c-30 Oct 1831

3rd Daughter named after Mother--Catherine-b-15 Dec 1833 c-26 Jan 1834

I searched the IGI and couldn't find any Samuel Thomsons married to a Margaret that had any children named William, Hector or George.
I found a Samuel and Margaret who were married in 1833 and had a child Agnes in 1839.

Now I wonder if this Samuel is related to George somehow.

Hector came to Canada in 1848, so he won't be in the later census.

Would the ScotlandsPeople site possibly give the parents names on the OPR's Banns and Marriages??

Thanks for the help,

Tony

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Renfrewshire / Re: Thomson Family
« on: Saturday 14 April 07 14:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Trish,

I don't live near a LDS library to check out their film but have searched the IGI records on their internet site.

I have found another possible child of George and Catherine.

CATHERINE THOMSON
 
Christening: 15 APR 1827   Middle Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland

Parents:
  Father:  GEORGE THOMSON
  Mother:  CATHERINE

Using the naming pattern I agree with you that George's father was a William.

If the above Catherine is their 3rd child, do you think she would be named after the father or the mother's mother. ???

I have come up with 3 posible George Thomsons. One may be the George you mention.

1. George-b-30 Apr 1803, Glasgow
Parents; William Thomson and Margaret Miller (submitted entry)
2.George-b-02 Feb 1800, Spott, East Lothian
Parents; William Thomson and Margaret Scott(submitted entry)
3. George-b-21 Mar 1793; c-22 Mar 1793, Row, Dunbarton
Parents; William Thomson and Kathrine McLallan

On FreeCEN ,in the 1841 census I found;

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The first 4 children seem to match up with the ones that I am searching. I am now searching to see if Samuel and Margaret had the same children.
Or perhaps, George and Catherine died and the children went to live with this couple.

Once I gather enough info to go on, I do plan on trying the ScotlandsPeople site.

It certainly is confusing at times.

Tony

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Spelling of name
« on: Wednesday 11 April 07 14:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi JAP

I followed your directions for searching the IGI and came up with 3 siblings for Janet.

Children of John McVey and Mary Gilmour

 MARY MCVEY- 28 SEP 1831 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

WILLIAM STEWART MCVEY-27 AUG 1834-Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

MARY MCVEY -17 JUL 1837  Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Going by the gap in dates, there are probably a few more.

With using the Naming Pattern being so successful I am going the same route for George Thomson's parents.
Looks like it could have been William Thomson I should have
been looking for instead of a George.


Thanks again for your help,
Tony

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Spelling of name
« on: Tuesday 10 April 07 17:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi again, just received your post as I was getting ready to send this.

That is great to hear your news about
John MCVEY and Janet MURRAY having a son John MCVEY.
I didn't find that on the IGI.

And that is the correct Hector Thomson who married Janet.

A puzzle solved. Thank you so much for your help.

With that info I should be able to check the SP's records to confirm the IGI data.

Now I only have to find out who Hector's father's parents were.

I thought I had tracked them  and his family down but I was told by a descendant of the family that I was researching, that the George I found had died a year after he was born.   :'( At least I had gained some knowledge of searching records, so I figure it wasn't a complete waste.



here is info that I posted on the Larnarkshire thread.

As you can see, it seems that they were a bit nomadic, going by the fact the children being born in different towns/villages.
That is if my findings are correct.

George Thomson (b-abt-1798) married Catherine Cochrane.
Catherine was c-29 JUL 1798 at Lochwinnoch, Renfrew
I believe Catherine's parents were, Hector Cochrane and Katherine McLean
From the IGI records I have found the following information.
George and Catherine married on 16 May 1822 in Lochwinnoch, Renfrew.
As far as I can tell, they had the following children;
1.William Thomson -c-29Jun 1823 in Lochwinnoch, Renfrew
2. Hector Cochrane Thomson -c-21 Nov 1824 in Lochwinnoch, Renfrew
3. George Thomson -b- 18 Sept 1829 in Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton and c-04 OCT 1829 - Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton
4. Margaret Thomson -b- 5 July 1831 Barony, Lanark
5. Catherine Thomson -b-15 Dec 1833 Barony, Lanark

As I mentioned to Nell, I found a family with some of the same names in the 1841 census but they are living with a Samuel and Margaret Thomson.
It doesn't say if they are the parents or not.

As I mentioned to Nell, I was wondering if perhaps George and Catherine died and the children were taken in by their uncle and aunt????

So far I can't find them in the 1851 census.

I know that Hector married Janet in 1844 and they came to Canada in 1848.

I haven't found any info that Hector's siblings stayed in Scotland or perhaps they also migrated at a later date.

I am going to do a search on the 1851 census again, with luck, I can locate them and then I will try a search on ScotlandsPeople.

Thanks again for your help,
it is very much appreciated.

Tony




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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Spelling of name
« on: Tuesday 10 April 07 16:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi JAP, for some reason when your latest post came through it wiped out the reply I was typing, so here I go again.

First of all, thank you for your reply and also BD and aghadowey.

Little Nell suggested that I read a post by Boongie Pam and she also mentioned the thread that you mention.

I did check out ScotlandsPeople site and see that it is a pay for view.

As soon as I get some info together I will try a search with them.

Janet died in Canada but her parents names weren't listed.

I have been using the Scottish naming pattern as a guide line to matching family members.

I did find on the IGI the two possible parent connections, i.e. John McVey and Mary Gilmore and John McVey and Janet Murray.

I was going for the McVey /Murray connection until last night when I found the listing of two births on the IGI, naming Hector Thomson and Janet McVey (McCey)as the parents and the children names were, Mary Gilmore Thomson and Catherine Cochrane Thomson, born Glasgow.

I will post this now before it disappears again, as I am a slow typer.

Thanks again,
Tony

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Lanarkshire / Re: Thomson Family
« on: Tuesday 10 April 07 13:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nell,

I have checked the 1841 census and found a family with similar names in Glasgow, St. Marys but they are living with a Samuel and Margaret Thomson.
It doesn't mention if they are the parents.

Is it possible that George and Catherine died and they were taken in by an uncle and aunt??

I know that Hector married in 1844 and came to Canada with his wife in 1848.

I will check the 1851 census and see if I can find the others.

I will also read Pam's guide and the other thread you listed.

Thank you very much for your help,

Tony
 


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Lanarkshire / Re: Thomson Family
« on: Monday 09 April 07 23:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nell, thanks for the tip.

I have discovered there are many George Thomsons.
What info would I need to narrow the search?
Would I need to know what village he died in?
It seems they were a bit nomadic, going by the different towns the children were born in.

Would ScotlandsPeople show marriage certificates?
And if so, would they  list parents names?
 
Tony

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