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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: 1939 Register
« on: Friday 26 June 20 15:54 BST (UK)  »
I have found this Site confusing. What were the general rules on the name entry.?

I have found my husband, but not his sister, I am on my parents entry of address, but redacted- presumably becuse I am still alive.

My aunt then 18, has both husbands added - one as late as 1980- she died in 1984.  I believe the NHS do the later entries?

I am now looking for 3 children born 1929/1935. - Their mother died in 1937, and the father in the RAF by 1941.

So what happened to them 1937- 1945?  And where would I look?

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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Re: drawing up family tree on paper??
« on: Tuesday 20 March 18 12:56 GMT (UK)  »
20 yrs ago! I started with a box of  self adhesive labels, and a large sheet of poly....(what not?) glass.

Firstly I stuck on my fathers name and dates, entered on a label, at the bottom ,  then above him his father, and so on, until I had all the direct males entered in layers. Then I started to fill in the siblings. I didn't touch the spouses until i had this lot sorted into some order. (all the same surname).

I had the information I just didn't enter them until i had a basic male tree. Maybe it will work for someone else?

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage or Burials in Cheshire, uk c 1800
« on: Tuesday 10 March 15 23:16 GMT (UK)  »
The marriage at Rostherne St Mary in 1797,
 is of Ellin Massey to George Okell, she is the daughter of Peter Massey not
 Richard Massey of Knutsford

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage or Burials in Cheshire, uk c 1800
« on: Tuesday 10 March 15 10:40 GMT (UK)  »
I think the marriage at the cathedral-Is a distinct possibility. (the cathedral  was the parish church in those days for vast areas of greater Manchester  something to do with church fees) though not Cheshire.
 You are right there are quite a few Cheshire registers not on line at the moment.

It seems likely that either Shackleton as a merchant travelled around, or that Sophia went to work in some capacity in that location,--- if it is the same female.

I was trying to locate Sophia, because I cannot find the burial of her father Richard Massey bap at Rostherne in 1736, and a farmer at Ollerton until at least 1775. when his wife died, and is buried at Knutsford,he was then 40.
 I thought the two, father & daughter might be together somewhere.  The other family members are buried at St Johns, Knutsford.

 :-\


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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Marriage or Burials in Cheshire, uk c 1800
« on: Friday 13 February 15 13:41 GMT (UK)  »
Looking for any further information on Sophia Massey, baptised at Moberley in Feb. 1764.

Not the one married to James Pendlebury in Rostherne, both these partners only 21/22 years old, when Sophia would be 51.

Father was a farmer in Ollerton, near Knutsford, no further details- marriage or burial in surrounding parishes---
Unless mis- transcribed, as appears on some sites as Molloy and Mafsey

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Cheshire / Re: Burials in Cheshire (or not?)c1790
« on: Tuesday 16 December 14 22:21 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for your advice.

I reckon as Richard was baptised in 1736, he will be dead by at least 1836, so that narrows the possible records avaiable.
The tithe map whilst being great doesn't start on line until after this date, I don't know if earlier ones are available elsewhere.

I have a couple of wills from this period one is a John Massey of Ollerton who died 1801, who appears to be another branch. His mother is Hannah Massey a widow of Peover at this date, his sister is Ellen Ward, wife of William Ward of Buxton, Ostler.
The executors are Josiah Potts , Gent. and John Dale, schoolmaster of Ollerton.

I suppose in 1801 for Ollerton to have a school must indicate that the was a larger community than I had supposed. Unless they all  travelled in from surrounding areas?

I am not sure who was the main  landowner at this point. Later the small plots were taken over by larger landowners, to make larger estates, I understand. Though there appears to have been but a manor hall, and a manor farm for some time.. Much enlarged later.

Interestingly the burial coast were paid for by the contributions  he had made to The George Club, Knutsford. The public house I suppose.

The witnesses were John Lawrence of Birmingham, and Samuel Taylor of Peover, Farmer.
Its just knowing where to look for further information.....

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Cheshire / Re: Burials in Cheshire (or not?)c1790
« on: Saturday 13 December 14 16:25 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you.

Yes thats one I found too. But he has family that predates him, and so doesn't fit.

I found a baptism record for Sophia at Mobberley, but it was listed as Molloy, so i suspect my Richard is there somewhere in the records also with a mis indexed name.

The most accurate index is the Cheshire -University of Liverpool site, but unfortunately that is only one third complete. I may be beyond searching when they have done all the parishes! :)

What I cannot get to is the  land tax register for Ollerton, which may have shown him as a tenant.- up to his death? I don't know when that started and if such records exist somewhere.


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Cheshire / Burials in Cheshire (or not?)c1790
« on: Saturday 13 December 14 14:30 GMT (UK)  »
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Having spent some time looking at Parish Registers for a burial, in the belief that everyone is buried! I am still looking for a couple of people.

The first is a Richard Massey, a farmer of Ollerton near Knutsford, baptised at Rostherne in 1736, married at Sandbach by license, and still? alive at the burial of his wife Sarah Cherry at St Johns Knutsford, in 1775.

Also his daughter Sophia Massey baptised at Mobberley in 1764.(marriage or burial)?

I have had the registers at Rostherne, Knutsford and Mobberley. checked by the CRO. without success.  Mainly because there are lots of transcription errors on the name in the on line entries-

Molloy, Masfey etc.

Richards wife died when he was 40, and he had been farming at Ollerton for at least 15 years. There were no small children that would have necessitated  a new wife urgently....the youngest Thomas about 7. The elder girls  15+ .

I cannot think what other options there are for me to find further information on Richard after this date.
I think.... his elder daughter Betty died at Ollerton in 1779, when presumably he was still there.

I have had help from associates looking for the burial, but we have no idea now, how to pursue this burial.

any new suggestions gratefully received :-\.

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: burials in cheshire/mobberley/lymm/?
« on: Sunday 16 November 14 17:49 GMT (UK)  »
Yes its the best site, but they are still a third short of registers available.
Richard was 40 at his wife's death so may have married again, there were no young children. One of his sons is buried in Knutsford as a married adult in 1811.
Richard had been farming in Ollerton for 15 years so its hard to guess where he might go on to.when his 'roots' are in Knutsford.
The name is often incorrectly transcribed as Maffey.

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