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Hi Ian,
Thanks for the interest and hopefully there will be a link with what you know about the Downies.
Heres what I have:

Catherine Downie born 26 Dec 1771 in Campsie, Stirling.
    Witnesses - James Downie and Robert Lindsay
to:
William Downie a Collier in Campsie and
Janet/Jean McLaughan/McLauchlane

Not a lot but felt like it when discovered!  :D

Regards,
Debs

ps do have a tree normally avail on Ancestry but currently saving up for the sub renewal and will be happy to share it when sorted!!

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Have a wee look at this Dolly: (Who's who is Glasgow)

http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/eyrwho/eyrwho0210.htm

The last paragraph in particular. Could the David Croll mentioned be any relation? If so, there seems to be quite a few articles about him to be found if you Google 'David Croll, Glasgow'

Anne

Hi Anne,

 Thank you so much, I will have a look at the link shortly as I returned  from holiday a couple of hours ago and turned on the computor to catch up on my emails whilst the kettle was boiling and the first wash went on!  ;D
Regards,
Debbie

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Hi Rob,
Great to hear from you and to find a family link ;D
Have literally just returned from holiday but will hook out my data ont he family as I have quite a bit on the Crolls.
Jane Stirling still proving to be a headache but I think a copy of the St Mungos  Lair Owners and MI booklet has arrived during my absence so I may have more to add to the tree fingers crossed.
Will be in touch, do you have a tree on Ancestry?
My link is via Williams brother David who is my great great grandfather and I have info on David Croll and Catherine Downies parents.
Regards,
Debs

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Lanarkshire / Mitchell Library Look up request
« on: Sunday 21 March 10 12:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
Unsure if anyone is able to help me out here but if you are visiting the Mitchell Library and have a spare ten minutes, I am looking for the details on a Lair.

The section should be covered under the following: Lanarkshire Glasgow St Mungo's Burying Ground: lair owners
Glasgow Cathedral Burying Ground: Monumental Inscriptions & Lair Owners
2004 Fairie, J Scott & Miller, Susan

The Haef Lair is owned by John STIRLING and a relative (I have a death record)  Jane / Jean  Stirling was buried in John Stirlings Haef Lair at St Mungo's Old.
Record included details of charges for the hearse and two horses with Undertakers: Walter Lochead.

Jane was married to David Croll and died 03 Mar 1844 aged 32.

Trying desperately to ascertain Jane's parentage/family and hoping the data held might give a clue and fingers crossed, the MI.

With my thanks in advance for any kind assistance,
Dollydebs

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Hi Skoosh,

Thanks for the tip on the Stirling family, I have to admit I have drawn a complete blank on Janes lineage; spent loads on SP with no results. :(

As to the Crolls or Crowles, David was a Ships Carpenter Journeyman, his father also David a Wright / Carpenter. David senior was married to Catherine Downie who's father was a Collier.

Reckon this is going to be one of those branches of which I will have to buy loads of neurofen for! ;D

Dolly

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Hi Anne,

Many thanks for these links; I shall email gwsfhs and ask for an update on their projects.

I did find Lanarkshire Glasgow St Mungo's Burying Ground: lair owners
Glasgow Cathedral Burying Ground: Monumental Inscriptions & Lair Owners
2004 Fairie, J Scott & Miller, Susan

on the Mitchell link - how does this library work? I am assuming you would have to visit in person or do they do online requests?
Live in Sussex so my research is online only :(

Thanks again,
Dollydebs  ;D

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Good afternoon,

Have hit a brick wall and hoping some kind person may be able to assist me.

I have a death record for Jane / Jean  Stirling which states she was buried in John Stirlings Haef Lair at St Mungo's Old.
Record included details of charges for the hearse and two horses etc so I am assuming that the 'Lair' is probably inscribed as her family must have had money.

Jane was married to David Croll (20 Mar 1831) and died 03 Mar 1844 aged 32, record states lived at Stobcross at time of death.

I do not have her parents nor date of birth just an approximation of 1812 for her birth.
Query whether John Stirling was her father? Her second son is named John.

No data on her husband David Croll death or burial but a few snippets from his marriage til 1871.

Does anyone have access to MI records for this cemetery?
My MI's do not cover Lanarkshire although if anyone needs any help with Fife Deaths then please let me know.
I have googled to no avail.

With thanks,
Dollydebs

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Fife / Re: Balmain, Malcolm, William, Walter - Wemyss
« on: Monday 08 March 10 17:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Harry,

I too, have the place name Balmain and its meaning jotted down and that was the pivotal point in my research which led me to advising my Gran it was unlikely that the Balmains orginated from France.
Family lore can be a stumbling block at times and at others a little Godsend!

For Berrage, I have Belfrage in the search string along with a couple of others. I have noticed that a lot of the early records have names spelt phonetically and try to cover most bases which has assisted a great deal. However I was unaware that the origin was Beveridge - something I have now noted down.
With Balmain, I also search Balmane, Balman, Ballman etc and have found various spellings for the same people in the records

Whilst i have a few surnames noted with their origins and variants, I am beginning to think it prudent to research them all.

One odd thing I have found is that where I had thought only my maternal side of the tree originated in Scotland, my paternal side does too. I am beginning to think its time for me to visit Scotland and go to one of the research centres.

Have gone off on a tangent here and time for me to start the dinner, so I will attempt to leave the research, for a while at least :)

Many thanks for the tips,
Debs

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Fife / Re: Balmain, Malcolm, William, Walter - Wemyss
« on: Monday 08 March 10 13:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Harry,

What a lovely tale, I find its snippets like this from our past that makes everything so interesting when researching our history.

I have actually gone through my notes on the Balmains and the earliest birth I have for a Mary is 1730 to a Walter Balmain and Jean Berrage, Wemyss which is far too late for your Mary. I do have your Marys marriage though, in my notes.
Should I uncover anything I will let you know via rootschat as I imagine her date of birth will be around the same era as Malcolm.

My interest with the Balmains started with Jane Balmain born to Margaret Greig and Thomas Balmain in 1852. My middle name Jane, was in her honour and apparently our heights 4ft 9 matched although how my parents would know that I would be shorty when I was born is a mystery!
My Balmains according to family hearsay, originated in France but I have yet to confirm that link and it seems doubtful that I will be able to.

Regards,
Debs



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