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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: Kirkbymoorside Parish Registers
« on: Monday 12 December 11 22:27 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Sandymc,

I appreciate the information on Helmsley.  Also, good advice on the flexibility issue.  I am quite sure about this family.  Everything fits, in spite of some disappearing children. Again, that was not uncommon at the time.  Children died or left home.  In this case some stayed behind while the parents and younger children went to America and then Canada.  It must have been hard to break up a family like that.  Yes, "seen and not heard."  Children had a very definite PLACE when I was growing up.  Your help with this has been amazing -- thank so much.  I will check LDS as you suggest.

Jaunty





Hi Jinty

This can be find on www.FamilySearch.org which is the Latter day
Saints site which is free to access (as far as a I know) from wherever
you are.  Just a note about saying they were born in Kirbymoorside.
Alot of people chose the largest village to say they were born in as not
everyone could spell in those days.  Helmsley is about 6 miles from
Kirbymoorside and I presume this is where Ann was either born or
moved to when she was young.  You have to be a little flexible
with the spelling and the whereabouts in those days.  Dont forget
not many could write, read or spell and they like myself were not
told much as children, as they should be seen and not heard,
I even had that in my youth.  Hope this is your Ann and Jonathan
as  mentioned just be flexible with the interpretations.
They were born not far from alot of my family as you can see
Yorkshire, Yorkshire etc
regards
Sandymc

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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: Kirkbymoorside Parish Registers
« on: Monday 12 December 11 13:07 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Sandymc,

Thank you soooooo much!  I am most delighted to have this.  So, Ann's (with no "e") family name was Allan!  Yes, I have 8 children for Christopher & his wife Rebecca in my record: William, Mary, Sarah, Ann, Christopher, Rebecca, David, Hannah.  I believe this family, or part of it, arrived at the Port of New York aboard the Chester in 1843.  From there they came to Ontario, although I cannot account for all the children.  I am descended from David, or so I believe.

Is the source you used accessible to me?  I am guessing it is possible that "Russel" with one "l" somehow became "Russell" with 2 "l's"?

With thanks, Jaunty

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Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: Kirkbymoorside Parish Registers
« on: Sunday 11 December 11 16:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,  I am interested in verifying a marriage between Jonathan Russell, b. ca 1764, and Anne Unknown, b. ca 1766, both of Kirbymoorside.  Believe eldest child to be Christopher Russell b. 1793, so that may be approximately when the marriage occurred.  Appreciate any help.

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Thank you Lyn,

That helps,  Yes, this certainly is the right family.  I have found a record of them arriving on the ship CHESTER at New York in 1843.  Most of the children are on board (Christ. Russell 50, Mrs. 49, Sarah 19, Ann 17, Christ. 15, Rebecca 11, David 9).  William, Mary, & Hannah are missing.  I now know that William stayed in England.  After arrival in NY, the family must have come up to Canada.  Christopher's IGI birth date matches EXACTLY with what is on his stone in Ontario, so because of that, and a few other reasons, I am sure that my Ontario Christopher & Rebecca GGG Grandparents are the folks from Kirkbymoorside.  What puzzles me is that of all those children I can find only son David, my GG Grandfather, in Ontario.  He is buried with Christopher & Rebecca at Houghton.  Puzzling.  Perhaps not so much if one considers that aside from David there was only one other male (Christopher); all the rest were female and probably have different names.  And these are the early days of few records.

Thanks for giving this some thought!  And I appreciate the information about extensive emigration from the area in the 1840s.

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Kent Lookup Request - Wrotham - Chalklin
« on: Monday 16 March 09 11:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Casalguidi!

And thank you -- that's absolutely fantastic!  Thanks for going to so much trouble.  I am delighted with this parish record. James & Mary have eluded discovery for quite a while.  So much help here on RootsChat. 

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Kent Lookup Request - Wrotham - Chalklin
« on: Sunday 15 March 09 20:51 GMT (UK)  »
Yes!  It certainly would appear to be so.  It means Mary would have been married at about age 17, but that is certainly possible.  I will order the certificate.  Thank you!!  This has somehow eluded several people who have been looking.  Well done!

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census Lookup
« on: Sunday 15 March 09 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
In regard to the Russell family of Kirkbymoorside -- I now know that they did indeed leave England in 1843, or at least most of them did.  Christopher & Rebecca & David settled in Ontario, Canada.  There are several more children than are shown on the 1841 census doc.

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Kent Lookup Requests / Kent Lookup Request - Wrotham - Chalklin
« on: Sunday 15 March 09 16:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Looking for James Chalklin, b. 1819 Wrotham, Kent, d. 1902, Oldbury, Kent..  He was married to Mary Williams, b. 1822 Wrotham.  They had 4 chidren: James, Mary E., Betsy, & John George.  Appreciate any info. on James and his ancestors.

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A silent k!  Thank  you -- good to know that.  I note that the submitter of info on LDS has written it as "Kirby-Moorside," and there seems little consistency about whether it is one word or two.  I assume Kirkbymoorside is correct?    I should have guessed about "juxta" from the word juxtaposition -- makes sense -- appreciate the explanation.  At first glance the name was very confusing.  I have now entered these Kirkbymoorside folks and claimed them as GGG Grandparents, also Jonathan Russell and wife Ann as GGGG Graandparents.  Very satisfying!


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