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Hi Aisling

I have a Doran database for Kilbroney parish and I noticed in Kingskerswell's post that Peter Doran (who married Catherine McCrink)'s father was William Doran.  There was only one William Doran living in Kilbroney parish (Killowen sub parish) who had children and is most likely to be Peter's father especially since he had a son called Peter.  Here is what I have on this family :

William Doran married Ann Sloan in Kilbroney parish on 13 May 1839.    Witnesses : Capt. O’Neill, Peter Sloan.  The O'Neills, Sloans and Dorans were all neighbours.

Here are William and Ann's children :
Baptismal Date   Child        Parents                              Sponsors
15 Apr 1840   Bridgit   William Doran, Anne Sloan,   John Sloan, Bridget Doran
19 Dec 1841   Anne   William Doran, Anne Sloan,   Henry Sloan, Mary Sloan
23 Jan 1844   Jane   William Doran, Anne Sloan,   David Sloan, Bridget Kielty
28 Jun 1846   William   William Doran Jnr, Anne Sloan,   Peter Sloan, Ann Sloan
19 Jan 1849   Rose      William Doran, Anne Sloan,   William Sloan, Alice Sloan
1851   Mary   William Doran, Anne Sloan,   Patrick McGiveran, Catherine Doran
10 Nov 1854   Catherine   William Doran, Anne Slone,   William Slone, Rose Brennan
24 Feb 1858   Peter   William Doran, Anne Sloan,   Charles Sloan, Ann Doran
13 Mar 1862   Alicia   William Doran, Anne Sloan,   Michael and Ellen Sloan

There is a death for a Peter Sloan on GRONI website, died 11 May 1899, aged 40, which would fit with the Peter above.   

Also, I had transcribed this gravestone for this family :

Gravestone in Kilbroney graveyard
In loving memory of my dear mother Ann Doran of Killowen who died 20th December 1890
Also my affectionate brother Peter, who died 11th May 1899 and my dear father, William Doran who died 5th August 1901
Also Catherine who died 12th August 1918, William J Doran, 4th January 1943 and of Alicia Maher, 21st July 1948
Also Catherine Doran 19th August 1957

The Catherine who died in 1918 was aged 55 (b. 1863), is Catherine McCrink Doran.  Peter's sister Catherine's married name was Dunn.  You can get the death certs for both these people from www.geni.nidirect.gov.uk   It is a pay per view website but well worth it.

William Doran lived in Ballintur townland in Killowen sub parish and leased 24 acres from the Earl of Kilmorey - he was seen as a well to do tenant farmer in that area.  The family farm was bought from the Kilmorey estate by William's eldest son William in 1913.  Here they are in 1901 : http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Killowen/Ballintur/1236792/

The only one left on the farm in 1911 is Mary.

Here is William Doran's will -  you will note that he bequeaths £100 to his daughter in law Catherine Doran from Tamnavey   http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=233342

William and Ann Sloan Doran's daughter Rose married James Murney from Ballincurry (a neighbouring townland) in 1885, had one daughter Rose Murney in 1889.  She died in 1929.  For some strange reason, she was left out of her father's will.

Hope this helps with your research.

Hi Marine

Clonallan parish in the 19th century encompassed the churches in Mayobridge, Burren and St Peter's in Warrenpoint.  The baptismal and marriage records were amalgamated and kept at St Peter's but that didn't necessarily mean that your Butterfields were baptised in St Peter's.  It was more than likely that they were baptised in St Patrick's Church which was erected in 1806 in Mayobridge, which was then replaced by the present day church in 1862.  Unfortunately the records for Clonallan parish didn't start until November 1826 even though the churches in Burren and Mayobridge were built long before that, so it will not be possible to get the marriage of Henry Butterfield and Elizabeth McGlade, if they married in Clonallan parish.    They may even had more children born before 1826 but are not in the records.    Bavan townland is on the road between Mayobridge and Newry and it may be possible that Elizabeth was from Newry parish (McGlade was not a common name in Clonallan) and you might be able to find their marriage in Newry parish (their records started in 1818 - although the early years are very patchy).  The bride usually married in her parish.

Hope this is of some help.

Regards

Deirdre

Have you seen Alexandrina in the 1901 census?  Here is the link : http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Queenstown_Urban/West_Beach/1139488/
 Knocked a few years off her age!  The only other 2 Clapps living in Ireland in 1901 were born in England, although one was called William Henry (an Ordnance Surveyor). http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_Urban_No__5/Newrath_Road/1763441/

This William  Henry turns up in Armagh (married to an Alice Kate Hepenstall) and also in Cavan - must have been caught on 2 census nights. 

Alexandrina's religion is Church of Ireland (Anglican / Episcopalian) as are the other Clapps living in Ireland in 1911.

There is an Ann Murta, baptised in 1826, father James, in Co. Armagh on this website : http://www.ancestryireland.com/family-records/birth-and-baptism-records-county-antrim-and-county-down/?search1=Ann%25&search2=Murta%

This website is pay per view, but it might be worthwhile taking a look.

The city of Newry is divided between Co. Down and Co. Armagh and she may have been born either in Newry, Co Armagh or in a townland outside of the town.  Most people gave the name of the nearest town to where they were born, especially on censes.

Just a thought!   I know Peter Martin was a carpenter by the time his son got married, but it might be possible that he was a soldier before that (around the time of Francis' birth).  There are a lot of baptisms of soldiers' children in Newry parish (especially in the 1830s) as there was a major barracks there and you usually only see one or two children baptised for the different couples before they move on.  Unfortunately, not all priests listed that the father was a soldier but at least one priest did (mainly in 1836).  It might explain why Peter was in Dublin in 1815 and then in Newry in 1833.  I have seen gaps of 20 - 24 years between the eldest and youngest child in certain families, so 18 years between marriage and Francis' birth, is not too hard to believe.

Just something to keep in mind.

Also, whilst there were Martins living in or near Newry parish, I have never come across the surname Leavy/Levy.  It was usually McLevy, McAleavey, etc.