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Antrim / Re: Marriage: George Beck to Mary Ann Bell, in Belfast
« on: Monday 17 February 25 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Bronwen - many thanks for your message.
John Beck - I have his home area as Scarva, Co Down, married Elizabeth Gillespie in Bathgate, Scotland on 19 July 1855.
I corresponded with a few others in New Zealand re his descendants - of which there is quite a few.
I have a Bronwyn Leigh Shanks - daughter of Brenda Marie Ward and David Owen Joseph Shanks, would this be you ? Although i have most of the dates for BMD up to about the late 1980's early 1990s, I do not have any place information.
The earlier information you have was from the pamphlets of a Re. William Beck, who conducted most of his research in the 1st world war era, obviously this contains some brilliant research, but also some woefully incorrect data.
John Beck born about 1650 in Armagh - did NOT marry an Elizabeth Strettell, there is no proof of this fact. However there is proof of a Quaker marriage of a John Beck to an Elizabeth Robinson in late 1690's or early 1700' ( I have a copy of it somewhere) and details of the births of 4 of their children, with the same names and in order of birth as in John's will.
The Strettells were only very good business friends of John Beck, in the lined trade.
The seal used on the will of John beck and a Thomas Beck of Belfast can be traced in different forms, to the Becks of Holland.
I am descended from Adam Beck of Kircubbin, Co Down, he is mentioned in several documents including the early muster rolls of 1629/33 for men aged between 18 and 50 yrs of age - must have been born 1579- 1611, he is mentioned in the later 1663 subsidy rolls with a son John, so Adam must have been born 1579 - to 1611, and probably in the early 1600's. John his son born 1613 to 1647 so again probably around the 1630's.
I can find no proof my Adam Beck was related to either John of Armagh or Thomas of Belfast.
The Rev William was using the 4 brother story to make them brothers.
I would welcome any date you would have and would gladly exchange whatever information I have.
David Beck
John Beck - I have his home area as Scarva, Co Down, married Elizabeth Gillespie in Bathgate, Scotland on 19 July 1855.
I corresponded with a few others in New Zealand re his descendants - of which there is quite a few.
I have a Bronwyn Leigh Shanks - daughter of Brenda Marie Ward and David Owen Joseph Shanks, would this be you ? Although i have most of the dates for BMD up to about the late 1980's early 1990s, I do not have any place information.
The earlier information you have was from the pamphlets of a Re. William Beck, who conducted most of his research in the 1st world war era, obviously this contains some brilliant research, but also some woefully incorrect data.
John Beck born about 1650 in Armagh - did NOT marry an Elizabeth Strettell, there is no proof of this fact. However there is proof of a Quaker marriage of a John Beck to an Elizabeth Robinson in late 1690's or early 1700' ( I have a copy of it somewhere) and details of the births of 4 of their children, with the same names and in order of birth as in John's will.
The Strettells were only very good business friends of John Beck, in the lined trade.
The seal used on the will of John beck and a Thomas Beck of Belfast can be traced in different forms, to the Becks of Holland.
I am descended from Adam Beck of Kircubbin, Co Down, he is mentioned in several documents including the early muster rolls of 1629/33 for men aged between 18 and 50 yrs of age - must have been born 1579- 1611, he is mentioned in the later 1663 subsidy rolls with a son John, so Adam must have been born 1579 - to 1611, and probably in the early 1600's. John his son born 1613 to 1647 so again probably around the 1630's.
I can find no proof my Adam Beck was related to either John of Armagh or Thomas of Belfast.
The Rev William was using the 4 brother story to make them brothers.
I would welcome any date you would have and would gladly exchange whatever information I have.
David Beck