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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hosack family help
« on: Thursday 26 May 16 23:03 BST (UK)  »
Mary Ann Hosack, daughter of John Hosack of Buff Bay plantation St George jamaica, who himself died in 1815 (PCC will on Ancestry) married John Bell, planter at Woodstock in St George in 1828 (Blackwoods Magazine, online, September 1828) - she died in 1838 in Jamaica, but the death is recorded apparently on a Girvan tombstone (according to David Dobson, Scots in the West Indies).   The index to the 1829 slave returns for St George shows John Bell as acting as attorney for the heirs of John Hosack - he had laid down in his will that his son William was not to inherit until he reached the age of 26, but compensation, when it was paid, went to him.   Mary Ann seems to have married at 16.

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: McGuffog, McGuffey, Mcguffock, McGuffoge
« on: Sunday 13 September 15 10:17 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks - this is in his will, I think, though it's nice to know they were grateful.  So far I still can't find a reliable birth record for him or his brother,  and certainly not in Balmaclellan.   I don't know how old he was at his death, but his will, written a bit before it, is formidably detailed.  He was clearly in full possession of his faculties and then some.

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: McGuffog, McGuffey, Mcguffock, McGuffoge
« on: Friday 11 September 15 12:02 BST (UK)  »
These are probably not the same McGuffog family, but any information would be gratefully received.   The earliest I know of is David McGuffog, married to a Margaret Mains, in Craigs, Balmaclellan.   In 1760 there was a daughter, Sarah, later known as Sarah Maria, followed by a Jane and a Katrine (born 1766).

By the 1780s all three daughters are in Jamaica, where Jane marries (1786) a John Rutherford, a Kingston merchant who by 1805 is in Marylebone in London.  Katherine/Katrine in 1793 marries (from Jamaica)  William Duff, a merchant in Nicholas Lane, London but living later in Shoreditch.   Duff and Rutherford were close - the Duffs named a son John Rutherford Duff.  Sarah in Jamaica had married someone called Leigh whom I cannot trace.   In 1796, recorded as Sarah Maria Leigh, a widow, she remarries a John Forsyth, described as "planter," who seems to have been active in the parish of St Mary, though she seems to have owned the plantation called Leighfield in St George, which seems to have been their home.   Forsyth is dead by 1810, but Sarah can still be traced at Leighfield until the mid 1830s.   

All three women are remembered in the will of James McGuffog, a very successful draper in  Stamford, Lincolnshire, who dies in 1828.   Robert Owen had once been his apprentice.   His brother, John, also in Stamford, describing himself as "gentleman" died in 1825.   There is no mention of kinship, yet both James and John McGuffog are clearly also from Balmaclellan, which is mentioned in both their wills

It seems likely that David McGuffog was a tenant in Craigs, which seems to have been in the hands of a Gordon family in the 1760s.   There doesn't seem to be any likely link to Jamaica to throw light on the story.




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Other Countries / Re: The Croal Family of Guiana
« on: Saturday 04 April 15 17:14 BST (UK)  »
Yes - John Croal died at sea aboard the Derwent in 1853 - he must have been on his way to Guyana. The LBS entry does make this clear

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Other Countries / Re: The Croal Family of Guiana
« on: Saturday 04 April 15 17:08 BST (UK)  »
Correction - possibly - the Wikipedia article on the Bourda cemetery in Georgetown, Guyana, says John Croal is buried there - it's therefore unlikley that he died, as I wrongly claimed in my earlier entry, he died in Liverpool.

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Other Countries / Re: The Croal Family of Guiana
« on: Saturday 04 April 15 16:56 BST (UK)  »
Sorry if this is a bit late, but the University College London Legacies of British Slaveownership Database (Google LBS UCL, which should take you straight to the search form) has entries for a John Croal who was a Demerara planter in the 1830s and who subsequent to emancipation seems to have increased his holdings to include plantations Versailles and Malgre Tout.  He's recorded as dying in Liverpool(?) in 1853.  There are other mentions of a Mr Croal in the dairy of the second Apostolic Vicar General of Demerara, Father JT Hynes in the mid 1840s, though it's not clear if the Croal he refres to was himself a Catholic - probably not.   To get the diary you have to Google "Brian Condon's Databases"  where there is a transcript.   It's an interesting read, since Hynes was by no means secure in Demerara.   Reference in the UCL database also to kin called Ethelston.    My main interest is actually the Makgre Tout plantation and its owner in 1834, Charles Foxlow Milne.

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The Common Room / Re: mary ann and catherine lycett 1841
« on: Wednesday 02 July 14 16:58 BST (UK)  »
Apparently not YOUR Mary Ann Lycett - pity.   Many thanks, anyway.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: first name of witness
« on: Wednesday 02 July 14 16:51 BST (UK)  »
The first name of the Lycett witness is Edward - if you compare it with the second forename on the first line also abbreviated to Edw you will see that what can be distinguished of the E is identical.

I hope this helps

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The Common Room / Re: mary ann and catherine lycett 1841
« on: Wednesday 02 July 14 15:46 BST (UK)  »
The John Kingdon Mary Ann Lycett married in 1831 was the son of George Kingdon of Garston, Frome Sellwood, Somerset.   I understand the marriage was witnessed by Benjamin Bayly Kingdon, his brother.    John Kingdon was a Baptist  missionary, in Jamaica (from 1832 - she accompanied him to Savannah la Mar, where Baptists were under persecution) Belize, the USA, and ultimately, under the auspices of the Baltimore, Maryland, Baptists,  Liberia, where he died in 1854.   Family deeds associated with Longleat suggest his death was not known to his kin in England until 1865.   His sister Lucy also went to Jamaica to run a training school for teachers under anti-slavery auspices until she married William Wemyss Anderson there in 1834.   Benjamin Bayly Kingdon was a C of E stipendiary Curate in St Dorothy parish in Jamaica in the late 1840s and wrote a sanitary report on the island later.

I'm sorry if I haven't picked this up, but I'd very much like to know more about Mary A Lycett - not least whether she was associated with the London anti-slavery movement, but even her address and parentage would be useful.

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