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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James George Gordon Gammie
« on: Tuesday 22 December 09 07:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to Spider Monkey and Monica I have found Plain old James George Gordon. b.25/2/1858 Huntly Aberdeenshire. Only mother Mary Gordon on BC
m. Alice Middlemass 10/7/1884 Kimberely. South Africa. d. 5/11/1954 Krugersdorp South Africa. He went from repairing shoes on the streets of Aberdeen to become Mayor of Krugersdorp. And in between he was involved in the gold and diamond rush! His wife Alice died in childbirth in 1887 and he never remarried.
I would  now like to find Mary Gordon and her parents, if possible. What are the chances of an illigitimate child being born in her home village? Is Huntly a good starting point

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James George Gordon Gammie
« on: Monday 21 December 09 11:48 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for all your help. We are going to try the SA Archives to see what else we can find.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James George Gordon Gammie
« on: Monday 21 December 09 11:32 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Spidermonkey on Monday 21 December 09 11:18 GMT (UK)
So, the one who died in SA, is the putative father of Lewis Middlemas and James Gordon as seen on the 1891 census :D And we think that he was originally plain old James George Gordon, but to get out to SA he was adopted/sponsored by the Gammie family and took on their surname.

Whilst out in SA, he married (?) and had 2 children, both of whom were born in Kimberley, and then appear on the 1891 census for Scotland.

At some point James (bn 1886ish) goes back out to SA and marries Frances Easton (bn 1897ish)


Gosh ???
Could not have made it clearer myself ::) Do you think he might turn up in a census with Mary for Inverkeithnie. She was in service in 1858 and then married to John Stewart in 1869 with old plain JGG turning up somewhere in between ::)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James George Gordon Gammie
« on: Monday 21 December 09 11:05 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Spidermonkey for solving the Bures/ Lewis problem.
James George Gordon Gammie was born closer to 1861. He died in South Africa in 1954 aged approx 93.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James George Gordon Gammie
« on: Monday 21 December 09 10:59 GMT (UK)  »
I'm glad somebody is awake :-[ I have just jumped a generation!!!!
JGG was indeed with his Gran Mary and a brother in the 1891 census. The link I am trying to unravel is the link to Mary through JGG's father. Another  James George Gordon Gammie, born around 1866? who took the Gammie name or was adopted by a Gammie family prior to emigrating to South Africa.
Could James George Gordon senior be an illigitimate child of Mary Gordon? We will have to pick up the trail here in SA to find out who he married but if we can find the link to Mary it would be most appreciated

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James George Gordon Gammie
« on: Monday 21 December 09 10:06 GMT (UK)  »
I am still trying to unravel the James George Gordon Gammie
(b. 1886)mystery. I can't find a trace of an illegitimate daughter that Mary Gordon may have had before her marriage but we have found out that the Gammie connection comes from JGG  being adopted by a Gammie family at the age of 16 to allow him to travel to South Africa. Therefore his name must have been James George Gordon. Mother unkown at this time but Grandmother Mary Stewart  b 1831 (nee Gordon) of Banffshire.
Also was Bures Middlemas Gammie who was listed on the 1891 census as another grandson JGG's natural brother or half brother? My head is spinning!!! Emigration certainly messes up the trail. :-\ 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: James George Gordon Gammie
« on: Wednesday 02 December 09 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to everyone a lot to digest!
If JGG was born in 1886 that would have made John Stewart 81, and whilst he fathered Lewis a 60 it seems a little extreme to have fathered JGG. Can we find whether Mary remarried a Gammie or whether the child was illegitimate (maybe).or whether "gammie" was a common law husband
It is strange she was still using the Stewart name in 1891.
Mary must have been a strong woman as she came out to SA to take JGG back to UK. Do we know anymore about her Gordon side of family "gordon" has been carried right down to the current generation

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Family History Beginners Board / James George Gordon Gammie
« on: Wednesday 02 December 09 09:09 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find James George Gordon Gammie and his parents.
I have info on his wife's parents.
Alexander Easton m Willemina Heron 20/10/1891 Abbey Parish Arbroath.
Their daughter Francis Janina Easton married JGG Gammie.
JGG Gammie had a brother Louis Gammie  and Janina Easton had a brother Alexander Easton and sister Anna Hay Easton.
Francis and JGG emigrated to South Africa around 1900.
Help would be appreciated :)

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Drawing a blank
« on: Wednesday 08 July 09 15:24 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to everyone there is certainly a lot to digest but it looks as if you have put me on the right track.
I had found Elizabeth Ann Fell but my mum always refers to her as granny Lizzie Oddie.

Sorry for my grammar mistake " granny Lizzie Oddie" was my great great grandmother married to Wilbraham but obviously it appears to be Elizabeth Ann Fell

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