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Wiltshire / Mary Elizabeth Green (nee Maggs)
« on: Wednesday 22 April 09 08:39 BST (UK)  »
(This is B.E. trading under a new moniker!!)!

I've lost track of Mary Elizabeth Green (nee Maggs) b.1865, who ought by rights to have been living with her spouse, Charles, and children, including Gladys Maude, b.1903, at 7 Manor Terrace, Portswood, Southampton. I had the impression (from family folklore) that she was still alive at that time.

One possibility is that she was "confined" with her newborn daughter, Mary Octavia - I note that Mary Octavia's census record is flagged "Institution".

Can anyone help me out? Better still, can anyone find a death record for Mary Elizabeth Green, presumably in the Southampton area? 

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« on: Friday 27 February 09 20:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks.

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Derbyshire / Re: Emmeline Ivy WOODHOUSE - how did my grandmother avoid the census man (twice)?
« on: Friday 27 February 09 13:44 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that. I'll contact DRO to see if they offer a search service for those of us who live several hours' drive away. I couldn't see anything obvious on their website.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« on: Friday 27 February 09 13:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that, Daisy. Interesting news indeed!

So let me make sure I've got this right:
1. The original marriage record shows Bessie, but somebody has subsequently mistranscribed it as Bonnie?
2. It is possible for somebody to be called both Bessie and Eliza!
3. Bessie Eliza Isaac would appear to have been a spinster of this parish, aged 38, when she married in 1907.
4. Bessie Evans looks like a figment of the family's imagination!

Is that your reading of the evidence?


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Derbyshire / Re: Emmeline Ivy WOODHOUSE - how did my grandmother avoid the census man (twice)?
« on: Friday 27 February 09 12:50 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, those are all in central Nottingham. Thanks for all the info.

You don't happen to know how I could find out any more about Louisa Dickens, do you? Bakewell Workhouse records, maybe?

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Derbyshire / Re: Emmeline Ivy WOODHOUSE - how did my grandmother avoid the census man (twice)?
« on: Friday 27 February 09 09:47 GMT (UK)  »
Cracking stuff! I never spotted the "Relation to Head" search field.

So the wee young thing was born Ivy, adopted as Emma and baptised as Emmeline Ivy Dakin. Marvellous!!

Do you happen to know whether the Draycott to Shardlow shift suggests a house move or just a reorganisation of the census districts?

The marriage record is certainly feasible if Ruth came from Nottingham. It ought really to be a criminal offence to marry somebody from t'other side o' t' brook (ie: the Erewash), but that doesn't make it impossible, I guess. If he's only related by adoption, then I may not have to seek trauma counselling after all!

And how close might "Nottingham" have been to Draycott/Shardlow in registration terms. Does the marriage entry suggest the city of Nottingham or could it have been a village closer to the Leicestershire or Derbyshire border?

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Derbyshire / Re: Emmeline Ivy WOODHOUSE - how did my grandmother avoid the census man (twice)?
« on: Friday 27 February 09 08:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Di,
Well, at first glance this would seem rather unlikely, given the two pieces of information at odds with what I thought I knew. That said, Draycott is definitely the right neck of the woods and my grandma liked to be called Emmie, which might sound like Emma to an elderly census enumerator!

But...
I just double-checked my records and found that somebody (might have been me!) had put in a dodgy entry. I have a copy of William Woodhouse's birth certificate and it shows his mother as Mary Woodhouse, nee Smith, so in fact we never knew what his wife's name was after all - and it could well have been Ruth.

I just revisited 1911, but could only find a William and Ruth Woodhouse in Dudley (and no Emma/Emmeline/Ivy in the same household). I don't actually think she/they ever moved out of the Derby/Borrowash/Long Eaton area.

Sorry for the confusion. :-[

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: The world-famous SNOOKs of Lymington
« on: Friday 27 February 09 07:09 GMT (UK)  »
I am B.E. resurrected (couldn't remember my password, so started again!)...

I managed to solve a few family mysteries on the 1911 Census website, having soon worked out how to find entire families without having to spend any credits, but, as you might expect, uncovered a few more issues as a result...

In 1911 I now know that Walter Charles SNOOK was living with Bessie Eliza SNOOK. (This came as a minor surprise, since this logically would make her Elizabeth Elizabeth. ) On the basis of probability, but no evidence, I'm now assuming that she was actually the Bonnie Eliza ISAAC who was a 2-1 shot at marrying him in Southampton in 1907. Family tradition knows her as Bessie EVANS, but I can find no obvious trace of her as either Evans or Isaac in the birth registers or earlier censuses. We believe, as the name suggests, that she was Welsh, possibly b1869 Cardiff.

Can anyone tell me any more about the lady?

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Derbyshire / Emmeline Ivy WOODHOUSE - how did my grandmother avoid the census man (twice)?
« on: Friday 27 February 09 06:52 GMT (UK)  »
Parsimonious as I am (Derbyshire born, Derbyshire bred), it didn't take long to work out how to locate entire families on the 1911 Census website, but my grandmother has me stumped. For that matter, I was never able to track her down in 1901 either. Here are the details:

She was born Ivy DICKENS in the Bakewell workhouse in 1897 (mother Louisa Dickens, father unknown).

She was baptised Emmeline Ivy Dakin WOODHOUSE, aged 14 (ie: around Census time), having been taken in/fostered/adopted by William Woodhouse (b1851, Ednaston, Brailsford, Derby) and his wife Mary (nee Smith).

She herself had an illegitimate daughter, Ivy, in 1927, before marrying as Emmeline Ivy Woodhouse in 1928.

I've tried every combination of names I can think of and have still been unable to find any of these good folk in either 1901 and 1911. Is there anyone out there smarter than me (er yes, definitely!) who can help solve any of the mysteries of where she was and what she did between 1897 and 1911?

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