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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Completed
« on: Sunday 15 July 12 17:21 BST (UK)  »
Nedster,

There were two girls born to Emily and James. Louise you have details of was born 8/1/1902 and a second born Q4 of the same year. Her name was Emily Margaret Parr. There is a record of her death in Q1 1906 aged 3. Poplar 1C 327 is the reference on FreeBMD. Not sure if you know Poplar but it had one of the highest infant mortality rates in the country for many years.

Emily went on to have five children to Charles Wade. Two boys, Charles and William and three girls Doris, Lilian and Ada, my grandmother. I knew them all when I was growing up except Lilian.

Charles Wade was a seaman on HMS Philomel and I believe he died of injuries during a conflict with Turkish troops during a landing operation of (probably) ANZAC troops during the Gallipoli campaign.

Emily never married again although she had another son to a Joseph Scourfield in 1920. The reason I heard that she never married Scourfield was that she was afraid of losing her Widows War Pension. Scourfield has been described as "a bit fly" (this from a police officer retired) and he tried to do Emily out of her pension. One of her sons gave him such a hiding when he found out that he, the son, run off to join the British Army in India for fear that he may have gone a bit too far! Such was the Wades form of justice. My Nan being one of the worst!

It does seem strange you can find no record of his death. I only joined this site yesterday hoping to find anything of my Rollinson family in Ratcliff but not a mention here. I found some of them in the 1841 census in a house with 22 people of varying families but they disappeared for the next two census.

Good luck with your search.

George

Hello again George,

Firstly I can't thank you enough for your last message, I can't tell you how excited I got reading it.

So if my research is correct my grandmother had a half sister called Ada who married a man called Johnny, I believe they had two children Audrey and Patrick.
Audrey married George who in turn had three children? Pauline, Janice and Patricia.

I really hope I have my facts correct, as when my parents got married iat the Oval, Ada & Johnny attended and I have a photograph of them.

As a child we used to visit Ada at her house in Poplar, I can still visualise it now, I think it backed onto some sought of park, square ???

I do have the name Schofield jotted as told by my mother who s still alive, she recalls a company called Johnson and Matthey gold dealers who she thinks a Schofield worked for.

I do hope you make sense of my ramblings, if you wish to contact me by email it is (*)

Regards

David

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: JAMES PARR
« on: Sunday 15 July 12 15:17 BST (UK)  »
Nedster,

Did you have any luck finding the date of death for James Parr? His marriage was to Emily Martha Tompkings born 1880 in Limehouse. They married on the 1st December 1900 and was widowed from him on 1st December 1907. She must have liked the 1st December because that was the date she married Charles Robert Wade. They would have been my Great Grandparents.

Charles Wade died in RN Hospital Hasler December 1915 from injuries recieved during WW1.

The above I obtained from a member of Genes Reunited who had carried out a lot of research into the Tomkings family.

I found a couple possibles for James Parr on GR. There is one in 1891 aged 10 in Poplar which is a stones throw from Bromley and is almost considered to be as one with Poplar. My gran was brought up and lived in Devons Road area up to the war. He would have been almost 20 (same age as Emily) by December 1900. I know the area well and lived in Poplar till I was 18.

Well I hope this is of some use to you. I have followed in GGrandfather Wades footsteps by going to sea and as its my first day off for a couple of weeks I'm off to enjoy a couple of cold beers in one of Curacao finest seafront bars.

Cheers, George


Hi George,

Thank you very much for the information regarding my grandfather James Parr, sadly after relentless searches I have never found details of when and how he died.

Thanks for the details regarding Charles Wade, I wonder if Emily married for a third time after his death?

I have still got the burning desire to find more about him, I guess you just gave me the push to renew my investigations.

George I really appreciate your message, once again thank you.

Regards
David.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Surname CASSENCE
« on: Thursday 23 December 10 10:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Mary Siversides was the sister of my gg grandmother so i knew she exsisted, when i searched on ancestory for any records relating to her, i came across her marriage certificate to James Cassence, and the baptism records for the two children, then i hit the brick wall as no census records seem to exsist after the wedding, or any records for James before he got married.

Am happy to scan the certicate to you as i think it would make sense as to what i am trying to explain about the wording on the  certificate.

Once again many thanks for your time and effort.

David

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Surname CASSENCE
« on: Wednesday 22 December 10 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
I guess the east end dialect got lost in translation when the marriage took place, of the vicar was a bit tipsy,
Looking at the grooms signature it makes me think its Cafence, it certainly does not look like a double S.

David.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Surname CASSENCE
« on: Wednesday 22 December 10 16:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,


Many thanks to Louisa & Jennifer, for the time you both spent in looking for the Cassence surname, that gives me a few more avenues to explore.

David

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Surname CASSENCE
« on: Tuesday 21 December 10 13:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Thanks for the quick response, i did find both baptism records for the children on Ancestory, the problem i have is i cant find any of the family in future census records, i have no knowledge of who James Cassence parents were,only his father from the marriage certificate, which i also found on Ancestory. i have looked at the certificate many times, and i  am not convinced its Cassence, i think its been transcribed wrongly. If you look closley it could be Calfence, but thats not given me any census records.

Thanks again for your efforts in my plight.

David

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Surname CASSENCE
« on: Tuesday 21 December 10 11:39 GMT (UK)  »
I hope someone can assist in this problem.

I have found that Mary Ann Silversides married a James Cassence in Jul 12 1858, Bethnal Green.

The name has been transcribed as cassence, but i cant seen to go back through the census or even forward by searching the name, they did have two children James Henry born 1858 and George 1862, which have also benn transcribed as cassence.

Has any body came across the name before, or any ideas what it could be?

Thank You

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: St Giles Hospital Records London
« on: Sunday 24 October 10 19:33 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Dawn,

Have passed the information on, thanks again for your time

Nedster

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Completed
« on: Tuesday 19 October 10 21:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am looking for Rose Bailey who died in St Giles Hospital London, she was the mother of my cousins husband, sadly he knows nothing about her but would like to find out about her, she died when he was 3 years old. Her death would have been around 1951/1952, sorry this is a rather vague request, but if anyone could help give details of her in order to get the death certificate, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

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