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Armed Forces / Re: Missing in 1901, back in 1911
« on: Friday 27 February 09 22:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ricky,

1st child Thomas Charles Clifford was born in both 1893 and 1894! Baptised with one father, registered a year later (same day and month though) with another, also called TCC (you're going to be so sorry you asked!). Ada Mary born Aldershot 1896, Ada Kathleen born Devonport 1899, John born Aldershot 1902. Both girls were know by their middle names, for obvious reasons  ;D

Annie, nee Cunningham, born Gosport 1875.

I've found in other census years that Annie and Thomas were both confused about when and where they were born!
Thomas snr was born in Nechells, Aston.

Be delighted to hear anything! Thanks, Mandy

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Armed Forces / Missing in 1901, back in 1911
« on: Friday 27 February 09 21:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hope someone can suggest something I haven't already tried.
My gt gt grandfather, Thomas Charles Clifford, was serving in the Boer War with the Royal Welch Fusiliers. In 1899 his wife Annie was definitely living at the Raglan Barracks as it's given as their (?) daughter's birthplace on her birth certificate.

I know Annie didn't accompany him (very helpful RWF Museum curator confirmed that wives didn't go) but she is missing completely with her children, another TC, Ada Mary and Ada Kathleen (yes, definitely eccentric!). My family have been based in Aldershot from around 1890 till the present day but I can't find her at any address there. Strangely, her sister, Maggie Quinn, seems to have been at Raglan Barracks in 1901.

Could anyone suggest where she might have been hiding? I believe she also had her much younger brother with her as her parents died in 1899 and 1900 (already checked their Aldershot address in 1901 census). Been looking for 10 years!

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Frecknall/Head Lymington/Milford 1880
« on: Sunday 22 February 09 15:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi - the house is unusual in that it was one of the first Victorian concrete buildings (and very cold!). The man who built it (Peterson) was a judge in India and interested in their building methods, obviously oblivious to the difference in climate! He built the Sway Tower (aka Peterson's Folly) using the same method - unwashed pebbles from Milford beach. My husband curses him every time he needs to hang a picture on the foot thick walls and half a ton of rubble pours out! Peterson claims to have been influenced from beyond the grave by Christopher Wren but was also a philanthropist and provided a lot of work for local agricultural labourers when farming started to disappear. The house is at the top of a hill half a mile from the sea whereas most of his buildings are in Sway. I often wondered whether they just got fed up lugging the rubble and just dumped it here instead!

It's just a very plain, almost Georgian looking three storey semi. The top floor is an attic room with its own little staircase and probably would have had sea views before the trees got so tall. You can just see the Isle of Wight in the winter. I think most of the cottages around were thatched but they've all but disappeared since this house was built, around the time they were trying to turn Milford into an upmarket holiday resort.

I think before living here they may have been in the old school house, but I don't think it exists any more unless it's been incorporated into the school buildings.

Anyway, hope that's enough! What happened to all the men, they seem to have died quite young.

Enjoy your meal!

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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Frimley,Surrey:- Jane Yates
« on: Monday 16 February 09 20:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jane, Hope you're still around after all this time!

Lewis Stallwood (1891 census, married to Lydia, loads of kids, Charlton Cottage) was living next door to Patrick and Alice Lynch. Alice, nee Stallwood, was my great grandmother. Her father died in 1865 (of a broken leg  :( ) about two weeks before she was born.  I assume Lewis and Alice were probably cousins. I know my side was connected with the bootmakers at the Sandhurst Academy.

I've been trying for over twenty years to find out more about her. The census for 1881 has the surname as Slateword (the enumerator's mistake rather than a transcription error) which took me years to find out. I have birth and death certificates for her and the death certificate of her husband but I've never been able to trace their marriage. They weren't living at that address in 1889 but certainly didn't seem to venture far from the Camberley/Aldershot area. My mother remembers her as a "lady" and insists she must have been married to Patrick. Sadly he died young in Fareham Lunatic Asylum after having a stroke at the age of 42.

Anyway, would be delighted and amazed if you have any further details on them!

Mandy

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Frecknall/Head Lymington/Milford 1880
« on: Sunday 15 February 09 18:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, quite an old post to reply to but I've only just joined so hope you're all still around.

I live in the house in Milford that the Frecknalls (widow William, born in Worksop) and seven of his children lived in 1891. Intrigued to know more about them - a lot of the children seem to die as young adults.

Also, the will of Charles Nelson Frecknall is in the Hampshire Records Office, if that's of interest to anyone!

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