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Hi Sabrina

Thought I'd let you know that I now have the marriage certificate for Jane Armstrong and John Fenwick; it answers some questions and raises more!

They were married on 9th Dec 1837 but a line is drawn through where her father's name and profession should be given.  That must mean that she was illigitimate and the father not known.  One of the witnesses who signs the marriage certificate is an Elizabeth Armstong - perhaps a sister or her mother.  I have found an Elizabeth Armstong living, and born, in Bury St Edmunds in 1861 aged 61 so she would have been of the right age/time to be Jane's mother; she is unmarried and living with her brother Matthew who is a 64 year old clergyman - imagine the scandal! There are a number of Armstrong families around Hexham at this time, and perhaps the disgraced lady's baby  was sent of to relations there to hide the scandal.  My next step must be the parish records to find out if this is a true link or just a romantic wish on my part.

I have learned that Jane already had a daughter (Jane Armstrong b1834 in Northumberland) when she married John, and this younger Jane - following the family tradition - also had an illigitimate child - the William Armstong b1855 living with his grandparents in 1861.

Many thanks for your help and inspiration.
Tracey

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Thanks Rick for the very useful info and links, and the reassurance - I shan't be worried now to contact the LDS for help.

Tracey

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George Stillwell is my gggrandfather and I have details on his life. Do you still need these? I am descended from his second marriage to Emma Pike. I have Emma's details back to 1760.
Do you have any details on the Dewhursts? Who was Williams dad? I have the Melmoths (not an illness!) ;D
 

I am also descended from George Stillwell b1804, Andover.  I would be very interested to know the details you have about his life.  My link if from a child of his first marrage to Ann Burgess but i've not been able to find anything about George's life or ancestors.

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Thanks for your replies again Sabrina.  I'd not traced Jane & John's marriage - but I'll order a certificate today - so you have been very helpful.

Perhaps then I've have a go at the LDS films.  I've looked at the family search.org site and found some really good bits of info, but haven't been brave enough to take it any further.  I guess there's info on the site about where to find the nearest church - are they approachable without being drawn in on the religious front? I would hate to offend, but established religion is not my thing.

As you're on the other side of the world from me I guess you're just starting autumn as we're going into spring. I'm in England which is starting to look beautiful with the daffs and primroses out!  I hope you have a good trip.

Many thanks
Tracey

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Hi Sabrina

Thanks for your replies.

I'm new on RootsChat and not too clever at it yet; I do have later censuses which gives Jane Armstrong's birthplace as Bury St Edmunds, which I should have said in the first place - oopps!

After your message I took another look and see that in 1861 Jane and her husband John Fenwick are living in Durham and have a grandson William J Armstrong age 6 born in Northumberland.  Do you think that maybe Jane was married previously or if she'd had a son before her marriage to John then maybe this would make sense?

I'm probably being really dense but when you say "film" I don't know what you mean.

Thanks

Tracey

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Suffolk Lookup Requests / Parish Records - c 1815 Bury St Edmunds Please - ARMSTRONG
« on: Thursday 26 February 09 21:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Can anyone help with info about Jane Armstrong born about 1815 in Bury St Edmunds please.

She is in 1841 census in St John Lee, Anick, Hexham, married to my Gt, gt, gt grandfather John Fenwick and I know her maiden name was Armstrong from the birth cert of their son Robert.

I'd love to know about her family in Suffolk, so any help would be appreciated.

Tracey W

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Hampshire & IOW Completed Lookup Requests / STILLWELL, Andover
« on: Thursday 19 February 09 14:10 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone help with info about George Stillwell, a Blacksmith, born in Andover 1806 married Ann Burgess 1830 In Ripley.  I have traced back to him through the Census from my grandmother Mary Ann Stillwell.  1851 census shows him living in Newbury and gives his birthplace as Andover, Hampshire.  It looks like there may have been a family of Stillwell Blacksmiths in early 1800's in Andover - and I'd love to know more...

This is my second post, many thanks to the rootschatter who gave me the marriage info - I haven't figured out how to reply yet!

Tracey

Tracey

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