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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Woolwich Parish records baptism/birth look up please
« on: Thursday 11 June 09 19:44 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for the information, but it is definitely a Mary Ann Fraser I am looking for with a Father called James. Despite her claiming to be born in Woolwich in later census, the only matches I found were for James an ex-soldier who had an Irish wife Mary, and a daughter Mary Ann born in Ireland while James was stationed there. After much research I am fairly confident that these are the right ones, but if I had found definite proof of a Mary Ann born in Woolwich in about 1844 with a Father called James then I would have to reassess matters. Unfortunately it is a case that not finding one does not mean that there isn't one.
Gunner

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Woolwich Parish records baptism/birth look up please
« on: Wednesday 10 June 09 20:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Pauline, I suspect that she was born in Ireland and took to saying she was from Woolwich at a later date to avoid the stigma attached to this at the time. If I had found one in the Woolwich records though it would have disproved this theory. I thank you for the information and will look into it again when I am able to get back on the topic, at present I am distracted by other matters.
Regards,
Gunner.

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Armed Forces / Re: Where 31st Regiment could be in 1851! Further query
« on: Sunday 05 April 09 09:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi Viv,
        This is good  :), here is the reference of where you will probably find his service discharge document in the Kew archives. 1855 to 1872, WO97/1494, (Irw to You). They are organized first by regiment then by surname.
    These are four page documents compiled by a board of officers just before a soldier is due to be discharged to ensure that all his service details are correct. In it you find details of his enlistment, where when etc. personal details ages, hair, eye and complexion colours. A detailed breakdown of his service, periods in ranks, which regiments served with. It also details service overseas, which countries and how long in these places, as he served in the Crimean war it will detail his medal entitlements for this and any other ones he might have picked up along the way.
      The main thing about this document is that it opens up a host of other areas to find information, from this you will know the exact date of his discharge, so you can than look in the Pension books WO117 and see his details there, to be honest this information is taken from the discharge document though, it is still nice to have it. Benjamin will be in either WO117/6 or WO117/7 depending on what year he left.
All you need is to get to Kew or have someone look for you when they are there.
   Another record is the Discription book, when a man joined an entry for him was made in this book, it gives all the details of his enlistment, where, when, by whom, occupation, but most importantly a breif description of the individual. These records would be used to aprehend him should he do a runner. From his discharge document you will know when he joined and can use this to find the correct description book.
     A much bigger job for you, but something that will give you a month by month check on where he was throughout his whole army service are the Muster rolls, these are records for pay purposes, a list of everyone who was present in a given month, what extra allowances they received or deductions made. To cover his whole career though you will go through dozens of books, most will be boring lists of names, but occasionally there are some real nuggets. I have details of my GGGgD buying shirts, trousers or handkerchiefs from a dead colleagues estate.
   Finally for now, from these documents you will know exactly where he was in 1851 although from the list provided by Scrimnet he should be in Ireland, the must records will tell you which place.
    I will again send a personal message.
Gunner771.

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Armed Forces / Re: Where 31st Regiment could be in 1851! Further query
« on: Saturday 04 April 09 21:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi Viv,
         I might have found your Benjamin Jury on the 1861 census  :), we will need to do some more checks to confirm though. A pensionable service period in the Army at this time would be about 20 years, this would put him leaving the army about 1860 assuming he joined at 18 years of age. A search of the 1861 census shows a Benjamin Jury, born about 1822 in Queensborough, Kent, living in Milford, Hampshire. He is a boarder described as a Chelsea Pensioner, and married although his family are not with him at this address. Let me do a bit more checking and I'll get back to you on a personal message.
Gunner771

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Derbyshire / Re: Edward John Loverock of Matlock
« on: Tuesday 10 March 09 17:58 GMT (UK)  »
Success, your suggestion to try a notice in the Peek Advertiser paid off Margaret. Within 24 hours of the letter appearing a Lady got in touch with us. She had about to be Engaged to Eddie when the accident intervened. She provided three photos of him for us to copy and add to the collected data.
Many Thanks,
Gunner771
 ;D

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Kent Lookup Requests / Woolwich Parish records baptism/birth look up please
« on: Saturday 28 February 09 20:28 GMT (UK)  »
Could some kind person look up the Woolwich parish records for me please. I am looking to see if there was a Mary Ann Fraser born/baptised in Woolwich in 1844. Her father's name was James Fraser.
Many thanks,
Gunner771.

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World War Two / Re: RAF crew - Personal identification?
« on: Saturday 28 February 09 20:06 GMT (UK)  »
All Aircrew were issued with dog tags which they were supposed to wear, whether they did or not of course was another matter. The Dog tag would give, Rank, Name, number, and religion. The latter might not be the right one though as it would not be wise for a Jewish airman to bale out over Germany wearing something that identified them as being Jewish. I am not sure if there was any other information on them. I hope this is of some help

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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Artillery marriages?
« on: Thursday 26 February 09 18:29 GMT (UK)  »
       Here is some information that might help you track down where they were when they married.
   The Royal Artillery unit that was at St. John's Newfoundland in January of 1822 was No.1 Company, W.C. Skinner's Company of the 7th Battalion.
   They arrived there in about October of 1819 from Island Bridge, Dublin. under the command of C. Gilmour. They had been in Dublin from Jan of 1817.
   They left St. John's in about August of 1827 returning to Woolwich.
Before being in Dublin they were in Woolwich from June of 1813.
     This will help get the muster roll references for Kew, with a good deal of work you should be able to follow his career until his discharge and then find his discharge papers which will let you know when he was born, when he joined the R.A. and where he served overseas, and possible pension record, assuming he survived to pension.

       As far as the marriage I would look at Woolwich parish records, followed by parish records around Island Bridge, Dublin

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Derbyshire / Re: Edward John Loverock of Matlock
« on: Sunday 22 February 09 20:28 GMT (UK)  »
Could someone help me copy this request onto the Military (RAF) boards
Thank you,
Gunner771

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