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Just thought I'd check the 1939 UK Register for Robert's mother, Harriet Gertrude Blackwell (nee Briddon), d.o.b. 6 Feb 1861. Had I depended on her name alone I might have struggled; she's indexed as 'Harriett F Blashwell' - a good effort - on FindMyPast but as 'Harirette C Blaskevell' - a tad less helpful - on Ancestry.co.uk!

Moira

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Further thanks to you, Minniehaha. I've looked at all the references & made copies. The aliases provide convincing evidence of the man's identity.
It seems cheeky to ask after being provided with this wealth of material but does anyone have any further info on that will of Edith Marian BLACKWELL?
A comment was made that in 1931 Robert's wife, Ada Winifred, was on her own in Toorak, Victoria. On 27 Feb 1931 "Robert Blackwell" arrived at the port of London from Melbourne aboard the Baradine (P & O). He was listed as a plantation manager who had been a permanent Australian resident but was intending to become a permanent resident in England; his intended address in UK was 13 Abington Road, Brooklands, Cheshire, which was the home of Robert's widowed mother.
"Robert M Blackwell", aged 23, left London aboard the Niwaru on 28 Feb 1908 as a "1st Class Passenger" - it was largely a cargo vessel carrying meat & such like & there appear to have been no other passengers so '!st Class' is unlikely to have meant luxury! The vessel was bound for Napier, on Hawke Bay, & it arrived in Auckland on 28 April. The reports & records indicate that Robert started getting into trouble only months after his arrival.   
I hoped I'd found that he'd redeemed himself with gallant war service but the records were for a "Robert Montford Blackwell".
It's always sad to find an individual who appears to have led such a feckless life. In the absence of further evidence, let's hope he became more responsible after he'd reached the age of 30. Incidentally, the 1913 civil case involved Arthur Frederick Saunders, who appears to have been a local hotel owner & who had taken over the Muriwai Hotel earlier that year.
Thanks again.
Moira

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I was delighted to find this information about Robert Musgrave Blackwell. I am a descendant of Robert's aunt, Annie Edith Briddon. Since I live in Hertfordshire, I was particularly intrigued by the county's mention re  Edith Marian's will. I would welcome any further information on this or on anything else to do with this family.
Some of the events in Robert's life are reminiscent of those in the life of Edwin Augustus Owen (see http://owen.cholerton.org/05_elias_33.php); my maternal grandparents were Annie Edith's daighter and a cousin once removed of Edwin Owen. Even with Edwin & Robert's distinctive names, in other countries or states they could quite easily bury their transgretions during their lifetimes (clearly not so once the Internet arrived), Similarly, in days of yore, it was quite easy to get away with identity theft - I've come across several such instances in my research - so, whilst it's more than likely that Robert was the man involved here, it just might be another man! 
Thanks to all those who tracked down the information about Robert.
Moira

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Denbighshire / Re: Denbighshire Free Press in Ruthin Archives
« on: Thursday 14 October 10 22:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nerys,

Very many thanks for the newpaper reports. I have now carried out some further research which produced some intriguing findings. The story of David Blore's mysterious death is now added as an aside to my Owen family history, though the only known link with my Owens is that Rev. Elias Owen conducted David's funeral service.

You can access my report of events via the link at the very bottom of this page: www.owen.cholerton.org/05_elias_52.php.

If anyone can contribute to solving the mystery it would be much appreciated!

Moira

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Denbighshire / Re: Denbighshire Free Press in Ruthin Archives
« on: Saturday 09 October 10 09:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nerys,

Is there any chance you could send me copies of the news reports about David? No problem if not as I can go to the newspaper library at Colindale or to the Gale site (it would be helpful to know the references).

Best wishes,

Moira

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Denbighshire / Re: Denbighshire Free Press in Ruthin Archives
« on: Monday 04 October 10 18:58 BST (UK)  »
Glad you got onto the site.

You can contact me directly via the site & then I can send you my usual e-mail address if you want to send me attachments. I'd be delighted to receive anything you have. I love the detective work involved in this research but rest assured that I'm not assuming there is a connection between the incidents involving these two young men.

It was so sad that such foolish acts of youth should have such tragic consequences.

Best wishes,

Moira

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Denbighshire / Re: Denbighshire Free Press in Ruthin Archives
« on: Monday 04 October 10 00:37 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, my mistake!  :-[ The web address is www.owen.cholerton.org/05_elias_52.php.

You will see from the website that my relation was the son of the local vicar. It is only recently that I have traced some of his living descendants & I am gradually updating my website as I learn more. I have just been reading a report from the Denbighshire Free Press about the inquest into his death & I shall be adding this to the site shortly. I would be most interested to see any reports you may have about your ancestor. You will also see from the website that the unfaithful wife suffered a terrible fate as a consequence of her actions.

Hope you can now get to see the site ... but let me know if you have any more problems.


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Denbighshire / Re: Denbighshire Free Press in Ruthin Archives
« on: Sunday 03 October 10 13:03 BST (UK)  »
I am intrigued by your post as one of my relatives committed suicide in Efenechtyd in September 1888. I am told by his descendants that he discovered his wife was having an affair. Could the death of these two young men have been related & if so might local people who knew about what was going on have exacted revenge on the third party involved? Of course it might simply be a coincidence.
You can read about my relative at www.owen.cholerton/05_elias_52.php etc.
I'd be happy to exchange information with you to explore this possibility ... though it's unlikely we shall ever know!

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: BMD registration
« on: Wednesday 11 February 09 09:23 GMT (UK)  »
I've plenty of census entries for the Cohn family & BDMs & now think I've found Francis Jesaias Cohn in 1891 & 1901. He changed his name to Francis James Cole in 1891 & was Frank James Cole in 1901 BUT then his wife & m-in-l's Christian names changed between 1891 & 1901 - all v mysterious!!
I'm in touch with someone in Holland who's doing some academic research on Jesaias Michael Cohn .
I don't appear to be able to send personal messages on the rootschat website - I mainly use other websites & only got onto this though a Google search - but can receive them so will happily send more info if you let me know your e-mail address.
Kate Emma Cohn was my friend's grandmother.

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