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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Monday 02 February 09 08:23 GMT (UK)  »
  :) Hi Dara, for the event you missed, try www.horsedata.co.uk/bsja_history.htm and scroll down through King George V Gold Cup winners to 1963 and you will find that Tommy and Dundrum won the cup that year. We bought Jed and Tara from Tommy's grandparents, James and Josie Wade of Thomastown.

Have you heard of Shane Breen, also from Tipperary and trained by Tommy Wade? He is an international showjumper and married to Chloe Bunn, daughter of Douglas Bunn who owns Hickstead. Chloe moved to Shane's family stud in Tipperary but they have since relocated to Hickstead  to help run the place.

You are right, Dara, this is an interesting subject and Tipperary is a wonderful place, masses of unspoilt lands owned by a lucky few. Yes, I would relocate there tomorrow if I didn't have commitments here. And Ireland has refused to ban foxhunting - good for them.

Giles

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Sunday 01 February 09 10:57 GMT (UK)  »
 :D Hi Dara, I'm not related to the Mathew family either but when I was a child we bought a couple of horses from Wades of Thomastown who used breed showjumpers and fox hunters, we were into the latter. I also remember Tommy Wade who won the 1963 King George Gold Cup; he was an international showjumper and his horse was called Dundrum, named for Dundrum in Tipperary. I would love to see some pics of the place because I have been there as a child. I remember crossing the turbulent Irish Sea with an empty horsebox and heading to Tipperary for our hunters whom we named Jed and Tara, and bringing them home to Sussex. My family were big into foxhunting. Yes I remember the Wades were very horsey types, much like us really.

Oh by the way, do you know what happened to Tommy Wade? And I believe he had a brother, Jimmy. I remember them well back then. Giles.

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Friday 30 January 09 23:07 GMT (UK)  »
May I suggest looking up the Poyntz family of Iron Acton, Glos (www.actoncourt.com) open to the public between 16 June and 23 August. Lady Elisha Mathew was a desendant of Elisabeth Poyntz.

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Tipperary / Re: Lady Ellisha Mathew
« on: Friday 30 January 09 22:54 GMT (UK)  »
 8) Lots of interest in this family but its Mathew not Mathews so if your name is Mathews then you are not a descendant from the Earls of Llandaff, family seat: Thomastown Castle, Tipperary.

Elisabeth Poyntz of Iron Acton, Glos. married the Duke of Ormond, Thurles, Tipperary in the early 1600s but he died aged 25 leaving Elisabeth a young widow with no children.

Elisabeth then married George Mathew from Llandaff, Wales and he moved to his wife's estates at Thurles. George was later given the whole area of Thomastown, Tipperary where he build Thomastown Castle. The Mathew descendants continued to live at Thomastown until they became extinct in the 1800s on the death of Francis (Earl of Llandaff) and his brothers George and Montaqu. Francis was married but they had no children. George and Montaqu never married so end of the Mathew line, save for Lady Elisha who inherited Thomastown and married James Wade. The Wades were very much horsey people so Thomastown became a stud and it is still owned by the Wade family today.




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