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Messages - Ms. Smokestoomuch

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Dublin / Re: Old IRA Dublin Brigade
« on: Wednesday 02 February 11 14:17 GMT (UK)  »
I hope I didn't jump the gun but I think it's really Richard Coleman.
http://swordsdublin.net/richard_coleman.html

I had taken notes but they are in disarray now. So I was thinking you had the name right and I had made an error.
Looking at it now I'm still inclined to believe that the funeral was for Richard Coleman. He seems important enough to merit taking the risk of staging a military funeral.
But also the time period he has the funeral down for is wrong for Richard.
But on the other hand I would expect people to make errors of dates or names if they were trying to remember events more than 10yrs after.

Maybe someone out there can set us straight.

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Dublin / Re: Old IRA Dublin Brigade
« on: Thursday 27 January 11 14:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kristof
Glad to see you survived the flood.
I came across the raid on the Aerodrome before when I was looking up Dick McKee. It was one of the activities that I could find that McKee was actually involved in rather than just organising.
He was living in Finglas too though he became next in line to Collins.
It was a successful raid, 75 Rifles, Bayonets, 6,000 rounds and not a shot fired during it.
McKee also attended the Coleman Funeral. It was a military style funeral and they had to escape through the back gate of Glasnevin cemetery.


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Dublin / Re: Old IRA Dublin Brigade
« on: Saturday 15 January 11 11:19 GMT (UK)  »
It dawned on me reading the pension application form, that each section for each period was fill in with no space left for any other activities. My grandfather was by no means full time as a volunteer and yet he was running out of room on that form.
There's a chance that volunteers just put down the most important activities they were involved with. And at that, because of the lack of space on the form they ended up summarising way to much.
My Granda has "involved in Operation Nov. 21st." That does my head in.
One of the most violent days in our history, and I haven't a clue what he was up to.

He had to appeal the grade they gave him on the pension. He was successful but I'd say it was something that disillusioned him somewhat.

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Dublin / Re: Toby Breslin
« on: Thursday 30 December 10 11:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi I know a grandson which I think visited rootschat before.
I think that his information is limited too. It's crying out for someone to apply for the pension from dept of defence. That takes forever though and I think you have to be a fairly direct relative.
Sorry I've nothing more but here's something that was in the St. Lawrence O'Toole centenary book.
Nice little sketch

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Dublin / Re: Toby Breslin
« on: Wednesday 29 December 10 02:02 GMT (UK)  »
I know a little
He fought in the 1916 rising in Boland's flour mill and was interned. He fought on in the war of independence and civil war.
Here he is on the 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Royal_Exchange/Chatham_St_/87991/
You might have cottoned on to the census but maybe not if you're computer shy.
 
and 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Monaseed/Slievebaun/1792849/


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Dublin / Re: Any stories/info from 1916 -1922
« on: Thursday 18 November 10 09:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Tmp48
Probably not  close relatives but in the book "no ordinary women" there was mentioned two Pollard sisters that were in Jacobs. Maybe cousins?

Was there no issue of birth cert for your mother because she was born during the Rising. I've been curious about certs for that week.
My grandfather was in Jacobs. He could see into homes beside the factory during the week. I think he was on the roof. Anyhow he watched a family with a child's coffin. They were not able to bury the child because of the chaos. I think he found that quite disturbing. He later was an acquaintance of Sean O'Casey. O'Casey used that imagery in the "Plough and the Stars".
But I've often wondered who was that family and would it be impossible to find a death cert.
I can't explain why that interests me, but it does.  :-\


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Dublin / Re: Micheal Collins and 'The Squad'.
« on: Wednesday 13 October 10 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Sorry I've no idea if there is a family tie between the Conroys. Just two Herberts in the country in 1911.

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You need more on the raid the British made to pick up McKee and Clancy. Who else had gone to the place where were captured - Sean Fitzpatrick's house at 36 Gloucester Street - that night
Of course the propaganda with the whole story comes from all sides and makes you think twice about all sorts.
I know little but it seems the premises was McKee and Clancy's digs. Though McKee's mother's house was raided the Wednesday after and they withdrew when she told them he had been killed in Dublin Castle.
The night of their arrest Dublin Castle was said to be very crowded with others arrested. ( I wonder did it affect the next mornings activies)
Sean Fitzpatrick I don't know much about but Castle report said originally that they found a box of cartridges, two uniform of a British Colonel, an automatic bell target and a device which might be used for exploding guncotton. The papers by Nov 25 were now saying there was only one uniform and Fitzpatrick had produced a receipt for it during the raid. The box of ammo was a box of candles.
And they also start to discredit the Castle's version of events on Clune being IRA Lieut. of 1st Batt Clare.

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Dublin / Re: Micheal Collins and 'The Squad'.
« on: Tuesday 12 October 10 23:46 BST (UK)  »
I should clear up
Ralph Laffan was released on bail for the other killing.

Also despite David Neligan's best efforts, Conroy was refused a pension when he returned in 1932.

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Dublin / Re: Micheal Collins and 'The Squad'.
« on: Tuesday 12 October 10 23:32 BST (UK)  »
Here's a few notes from the Programme on the Little Jerusalem Killings. Summarised believe it or not.

Oct 31st 1923 Bernard and brother Samuel Goldberg were attacked at 95 Stephens Green
3 men approached. Samuel was attacked but managed to run and shots were fired. His brother was killed.
The National Army was said to have been seen in the area but wearing non uniform caps.
November 14th there was an attack on Emanuel Kahan and David Miller on Stamer Street. Emanuel Kahan was killed.
Police than started to suspect Ralph Laffan and James conroy as present at one of the killings. Ralph Laffan was arrested and he claimed Conroy and Laffan's brother Fredrick were involved and that Ralph was only giving them a lift
Conroy and Fredrick Laffan manage to have time to flee to Tampico Mexico.
March 1925 due to insufficient evidence Ralph Laffan was found not guilty. He was released on bail, fled to join the others in Mexico.
David Neligan was Chief Superintendent in charge of the investigation. (Ralph Laffan had asked to make his statement to him)
He pretended to not know Conroy and Laffan well as old comrades. But It seems he was likely to have been the reason they had time to flee.

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