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I would be very grateful if anyone could verify the following NOT using the IGI -

Mary Ann Hopkins or Townsend  ch. 3/7/1808 at Hillmorton, Warwicks. Mother Ann Hopkins, father John Townsend

Marriage of Mary Ann Townsend and John Goode 2/11/1826 at Hillmorton, Warwicks (esp. details of any parents mentioned)

Marriage of John Goode and Elizabeth Townsend c1797 at Bourton on Dunsmore (esp details of any parents mentioned).

Many thanks

Sorry - I understand, but if someone did find them would it be allowed for them to tell me what spelling of the name to look under and I will search myself?

Yes she did.

I was so excited when the 1911 census came out,as I knew it would show me her birthplace finally, but as you can see from my other posts, I cannot find the Goode family in the 1911 census.

She is so elusive

Wow Tom, that was quick!

I had found those two myself but could see no concrete connection to Lilian, only coincidental. It is possible that Fanny Boxall was Lilian's mother, and that her father really was William Pearce but they were not married. Fanny later marrying Burton.

But why then did Lilian not use Burton on her marriage cert or the birth cert of my grandmother? If she took her father's family name of Pearce then how did my mother ever think her name was Burton not Pearce?

Best match so far is Lilian Pearce born Jun Qtr 1884 at Warwick Vol 6d Pg 604
NB Leamington comes under Warwick

But why no Lilian Pearce or Burton in the 1901 census for Hants or Warwicks?

I guess it's my best shot though - i think I'll just have to order that birth cert. and hope for the best.

Thanks for your help

Has anyone come across the following person or family in their researches, or does anyone have any ideas how I can proceed with this?

I am looking for Lilian Pearce (or possibly Burton).

When I started researching years ago, my mother said her grandmother was Lilian Burton. When I got my great grandfather's marriage cert. however, she gave her name as Lilian Pearce, but the witnesses were both named Burton !!!!!


Marriage – 28th Sept 1907 at Winchester – Lilian Pearce aged 23 spinster. Father was William Pearce a soldier, deceased.

Witnesses were George and Fanny Burton

It is possible she was a local Winchester girl, but it is also possible that she was from my great grandfather's home town of New Bilton, Warwicks and travelled to Winchester to marry him. He was a soldier in the Rifle Brigade and on the marriage cert they both gave their address as the vicarage. So, possibly she was not local.


Death – 28th February 1938 Lilian Goode aged 53

As per marriage cert she was born 29th Sept 1883 to 28th Sept 1884
As per death she was born 1st March 1884 to 28th Feb 1885

This gives likely range of 1st March 1884 to 28th Sept 1884.

I can find no record of her in any census (including the 1911 census) - see my GOODE missing family post, and therefore have no idea at all of her birthplace.

Was she really Lilian Pearce, or did she just invent it? Why did my mother always think she was Lilian Burton? Did the Burton's adopt her and if so, how can I find out?

HELP !

I have also posted this under Warwickshire