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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Saturday 18 July 09 08:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi MFH

I too am related to the Horsleys.  William Horsley who kept the Lamb was my ggg grandfather. 

I don't know if you were aware, as this isn't in Richard Osborne's book, but apparently William married Sarah Sutton.  A distant cousin found this out, and this was my initial conversation with Boaman as his Suttons are of the same line we think!

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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Thursday 19 February 09 09:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Miggins

You are correct (if I had read all of what my cousin sent me instead of missing a page I would have realised!).

Dorothy Dawson died in 1860.

The 1901 census reads as follows:

William Dawson 53 
Mary Dawson 51 
George Dawson 20 
Ada Dawson 18 
Thomas Dawson 14 
Mary Underwood 8 
 
The family are still residing in Marples Yard at this point.  Which of these offspring are you descended from?

Ernest
 
 

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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Wednesday 18 February 09 16:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Miggins

It looks as if it is the same family.  In 1891 census the following family are residing in Marples Yard:

William Dawson 45  (Gardeners labourer)
Mary Dawson 44 
William Dawson 18 
Sarah Dawson 16 
Fanny Dawson 13 
George Dawson 11 
Ada Dawson 8 
Thomas Dawson 4 
John Smith 53  (this being the chap I mentioned earlier)

In 1851 the above mentioned William was living with his Uncle (Thomas - another brother of Fanny) which would fit the info regarding George's second wife not wanting his children from his first marriage, who would be Fanny junior, (living with Smiths) and William.

The good news is that it looks as if George's third wife (? Mary - one of his wives - presumeably Fanny and William's mother was Dorothy) was reconciled with at least one of his children by 1861 as young Fanny was back living with them, age 15.  We don't have an address for William in 1861 or 1871.  As you say, he turns up again in 1881 living in Marples Yard with his wife and (? stepson).

Hope this helps

Ernest

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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Tuesday 17 February 09 21:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Miggins

My info is courtesy of a cousin who has extensively researched the Smith tree. She tells me that Frances Dawson born c1810 (who married John Smith) was the sister of George Dawson.  George also had a daughter, Fanny, who was born in 1846 and lived with John and Fanny for a while.  My cousin was previously in touch with a chap who also informed her that George married at least twice, and it went into legend that his second wife did not want anything to do with his first wife's children, hence Fanny living with her aunt (my ggg grandmother!).

This is only an assumption, but it sort of makes sense that John Smith junior should 'board' with his cousin William when things started to go bad for him (John Smith, not William!).  Interesting stuff anyway!!


Ernest

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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Monday 16 February 09 16:15 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again Glyn

Could you kindly let me have details of your Sutton line with particular interest to Sarah who married William Horsley please?

Ernest

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Derbyshire / Jonathan (or Johnathan) Wheeldon
« on: Friday 30 January 09 14:17 GMT (UK)  »
If anyone  has any links or info on Jonathan Wheeldon of Alfreton - born c1810 (or his father, also named Jonathan but occasionally spelled Johnathan Whieldon! brn c1782) I would be very interested.

Jonathan senior married Grace Bagshaw in Alfreton and as far as I can make out, they had at least 2 children, one being aforementioned Jonathan, the other Edwin.


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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Tuesday 27 January 09 14:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I think we may have a link here.

My paternal line includes my ggg grandmother who was Frances (known as Fanny) Dawson.  In the 1861 census she had her Neice, also Fanny, residing with them - is this one of your relatives also?

Later on, in the 1891 census, my gg grandfather, John Smith, was residing with his cousin William who lived in Marples Yard (though he is classified as a 'boarder').

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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Tuesday 27 January 09 12:18 GMT (UK)  »
Looks like....

Alfred Sutton aged 45 (coal miner) born Linton Derbyshire
Hannah Sutton aged 40 born Woodville
Ernest Sutton aged 15 (butcher's assistant) born Woodville
William (at school) born Woodville
Winifred aged 2, born Shirebrook

I know what you mean, it is expensive, running about 3.50 for a copy of original transcript.  Only bought one 'dud' out of 6 though and that was my fault - assuming my maternal family had always lived at one address when (I now know!) they didn't.  I won't be buying any more now tho, and like you for my lesser searches i will wait until it becomes available on ancestry.

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Derbyshire / Re: Melbourne Market Gardeners
« on: Monday 26 January 09 16:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Again

Curiosity more than anything - but I have just 'found' one of my Smith ancesters on the 1911 census and he is at that time boarding with a family called Sutton, though they have their place of birth as Woodville, which is not a million miles away from Melbourne/Hartshorn etc.  Do you have any rels who came from there and who may have ended up in Shirebrook, Notts?

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