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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Forder Family of West Tisted
« on: Thursday 13 December 12 21:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi I am interested in the Forder family of West Tisted. Esther, daughter of Levi Forder and Ellen Elizabeth Tostafine, born Dec quarter 1854 is in our family tree. She married Harman Tarrant 1877 and they were in the 1881 census (as Tarrants) and 1891. Harman died 1891 after the census where they were living at Preston, Sussex. I cannot find out whether Esther married again or when she died. Does anyone have information about her. She had no children. Judith

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Shropshire / Re: Anslow/Ansloe family in Shropshire
« on: Wednesday 22 April 09 00:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi Andrew

Haven't used rootchat for a while so hope this works.

Just to add a twig to your branch.

I am still researching the parents of John (H)Anslow who married Emma Banks - not there yet - but during the research I found a death that could be of interest to you.

The death for John Anslow on 11 April 1849 at Willenhall was a male ; 2 years; son of John Anslow Locksmith; pneumonia - 3 weeks; the informant was Sarah Anslow ( that would be grandmother). So this would be son of John and Harriett Turner. John being the son of John and Sarah Holt.

Hope your research is going well

Judith

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Shropshire / Re: Anslow/Ansloe family in Shropshire
« on: Saturday 28 February 09 22:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Andrew

Sorry about the error in addresses

Re John and Harriett.
I have Harriett consistently from Willenhall.
John's place of birth differs in different years
1851 Churchcham ( I think a mistranscript of Church eaton - the writing is quite difficult to read.)
1861 Willenhall
1871 Church Eaton
1881 Willenhall.

Makes it so difficult to sort things out when they change their stories!

With the addresses for John and Harriett
1851 64 Union Street about 3 street from John Street
1861 1 Hall street. Hall street is a little one block street that buts into John Street which is itself only 2 block slong. So he would have been on the corner or one house removed from the corner of Hall and John.
1871 23 John Street
1881  4 John Street

With John and Sarah,  John is consistently from Bradley and Sarah is consistently from Church Eaton.
with the addresses of John and Sarah
1851 John Street (no number given)
1861 John Street (no number given)
1871 10 John Street
John died 4 September 1871- living at 42 Meeting street.

Judith








 


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Shropshire / Re: Anslow/Ansloe family in Shropshire
« on: Saturday 28 February 09 21:29 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: noman on Saturday 28 February 09 11:58 GMT (UK)
Hello Judith and thanks again for your very detailed reply.

Quote from: argneli on Tuesday 17 February 09 01:00 GMT (UK)

At first I was sceptical about differnt spellings of the surname but having found the same perosn listed under different spellings I have come to accept. One has to remember that at this time many of the people were illiterate and they did have a broad accent!

John Anslow in the final quarter 1846 married Sarah Godwin.
John Anslow who married Harriett Whittle was a stone miner ( niece stayed with them in one census)

I believe that your John is that one who married Harriett Turner in the Jun 1845 quarter.( Walsall) - under Hanslow.  I live in Australia but have a friend/cousin who looks things up for me. She checked that marriage licence and the father's name was John.

I believe that your John was the one who was born at Church Eaton 30 August 1821 with father John and mother Sarah.

I believe the parents  to be John of Bradley (bapt 2 June 1793) and Sarah Holt of Church Eaton ( bapt 20 Aug 1800) who married 27 December 1819 at Church Eaton.
I have not sighted original documents but from IGI and census I have the baptisms of their children as:-
1820 Mar 6 - Sarah at Church Eaton
1821 Aug 30 - John at Church Eaton
1824 - Thomas at Penkridge (census and IGI)
1826 June 25 - Margaret at Codsall
1836 June 19 William at Bushbury
1840 Ann at Willenhall (from census)
1842 Henry from census ( from census)

John's brothers Thomas, William and Henry were all locksmiths or padlock makers or rimlock makers. They all lived in either John Street or around the corner at Hall street. John of Bradley and your John were in John Street in 61/71/census. So I think you John was of this family.


I must agree with your comments about the spelling of people's surnames. Even now, my own surname is spelt in a variety of ways in current documents!! I had been looking at variations of Anslow(e) and Onslow(e) but must admit I hadn't thought of Hanslow. Another avenue to explore (sigh!).

I'm still stuck with John Anslow. My great grandmother was Harriet Anslow, who married Joseph Rowley in January 1869. On their marriage certificate, her father was recorded as John Anslow, a locksmith. Assuming I have the correct census records, Harriet can be found in the 1861 Census (RG9/1999 folio 120 page 10 schedule 59) as the daughter of John Anslow, aged 9 and born in Willenhall, Staffordshire. The family was living in Hall Street, Willenhall at the time of the Census. John is recorded as aged 39 and born in Willenhall in that entry.

Harriet also appears in the 1851 Census, 4 months and born in Willenhall. The address is given as 64 Union Street, Willenhall. (HO107/2020 folio 466 page 18 schedule 64) This time, John is recorded as aged 26 and born in Church (Down?), Staffordshire.

That I have John and his family living in Hall Street in the 1861 Census whereas you believe they were in John Street is worrying, I need to find time to investigate the Census data again as well as visiting the archives.

I'll let you know what I find.

Regards

Andrew

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Shropshire / Re: Anslow/Ansloe family in Shropshire
« on: Tuesday 17 February 09 01:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Good to hear from you so quickly.

I have been looking at the marriages of John Anslow about the time you are interested in. I am looking for the parents of the John (H)Anslow who married Emma Banks 1845 at Rushall. So far have not had a break through but in the meantime I have found some information that would help you. 

At first I was sceptical about differnt spellings of the surname but having found the same perosn listed under different spellings I have come to accept. One has to remember that at this time many of the people were illiterate and they did have a broad accent!

In my family history Peter Hanslow who came to Australia was recorded as 'Onslow' in the 1825 NSW census and bought land at Lane Cove and it was registered under 'D'Angelo'.

John Anslow in the final quarter 1846 married Sarah Godwin.
John Anslow who married Harriett Whittle was a stone miner ( niece stayed with them in one census)

I believe that your John is that one who married Harriett Turner in the Jun 1845 quarter.( Walsall) - under Hanslow.  I live in Australia but have a friend/cousin who looks things up for me. She checked that marriage licence and the father's name was John.

I believe that your John was the one who was born at Church Eaton 30 August 1821 with father John and mother Sarah.

I believe the parents  to be John of Bradley (bapt 2 June 1793) and Sarah Holt of Church Eaton ( bapt 20 Aug 1800) who married 27 December 1819 at Church Eaton.
I have not sighted original documents but from IGI and census I have the baptisms of their children as:-
1820 Mar 6 - Sarah at Church Eaton
1821 Aug 30 - John at Church Eaton
1824 - Thomas at Penkridge (census and IGI)
1826 June 25 - Margaret at Codsall
1836 June 19 William at Bushbury
1840 Ann at Willenhall (from census)
1842 Henry from census ( from census)

John's brothers Thomas, William and Henry were all locksmiths or padlock makers or rimlock makers. They all lived in either John Street or around the corner at Hall street. John of Bradley and your John were in John Street in 61/71/census. So I think you John was of this family.

Hope that this has helped. Let me know if you have any questions.

Judith



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Shropshire / Re: Anslow/Ansloe family in Shropshire
« on: Monday 16 February 09 06:03 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: noman on Wednesday 10 December 08 14:33 GMT (UK)
One of my probable great great grandfathers was a John Anslow, born in Church Eaton, just south of Gnosall, in 1822. I haven't been able to get further back although there is an 1841 Census entry for a John, son of Abraham and Margaret Anslow, living in Gnosall, Staffordshire  (HO107/974/6 folio 35 page 11) who might be him.

Do you know who your John Anslow, born at Church Eaton in 1822, married?

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Warwickshire / Re: Hampton, Birmingham
« on: Saturday 17 January 09 20:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jim
Thanks for your reply. You seem to have great local knowledge. I will give you more details of MY interest and then ask you if you would like to say what 'Hampton' might refer to. MY scenario is:-
Parents born at Wolverhampton. Married at Wolverhampton 1787. One ( or two) children born at Wolverhampton. Moved to Birmingham about 1790. Further children baptised at either St Martins or St Phillips. Parents' addresses when they died were Lancaster St and Loveday Street (1823; 1826).
Peter transported to Australia for crime committed at Bromsgrove Street 1817. On records for Peter - Native Place: Hampton. ( don't know if this was filled in locally or somewhere else in England - perhaps point of leaving)
Brother Benjamin transported to Australia for crime committed 1823 ( don't know location). On records for Benjamin - Native Place: Wolverhampton.
We wondered if the fact that Hampton was on the records was an transcript error or if Peter lived  in the area of the Hampton Streets that might have been known locally as'Hampton'. or...
I did find out that there was a 'ward' of Hampton created 1838 as one of the 'wards' of Birmingham.
Help appreciated
Argneli



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Warwickshire / Re: Hampton, Birmingham
« on: Saturday 17 January 09 04:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
I also am interested in Hampton Birmingham.
In regard to native place I wonder if the authorities asked 'where did your family come from?' and because his parents came from Wolverhampton he gave the reply 'Wolverhampton' even though they had moved to Birmingham before he was born.
Also I wonder if Hampton is an abbreviation of Wolverhampton. Wolverhampton is often written W'Hampton so the 'W' could easily have been omitted in a transcription. OR it could be that the stafford accent was difficult to understand and only the 'Hampton' part of 'Wolverhampton' was heard/understood and recorded. 
If you use google maps you will find 'Hampton Street' and 'Great Hampton Street' in Birmingham. So the Hampton could be just the street name.
I will be interested to hear of solutions to this puzzle.
Argneli



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