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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: ASTON/ASTONS of Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire 19th and 18th Century
« on: Tuesday 19 January 16 23:01 GMT (UK) »
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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: ASTON/ASTONS of Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire 19th and 18th Century
« on: Tuesday 19 January 16 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sarah and Tony,
I've only just seen your posts. My email address was non-contactable as it had been hacked. I gained a new email address and that too was hacked! That was the reason you were unable to contact me. Sorry about that. Hopefully this latest email address will remain secure.
I also haven't visited this site recently either. I put my family research on hold for a while as I thought I'd researched as far back as I could be sure of with my ancestral line.
I remember the research seemed unusual at the time, with the missing first family as mentioned by Doublecourt in this thread and the marriage of Jane Williams (Joseph's widow) to William Burland before the next census return.
Regards,
Goleudy
I've only just seen your posts. My email address was non-contactable as it had been hacked. I gained a new email address and that too was hacked! That was the reason you were unable to contact me. Sorry about that. Hopefully this latest email address will remain secure.
I also haven't visited this site recently either. I put my family research on hold for a while as I thought I'd researched as far back as I could be sure of with my ancestral line.
I remember the research seemed unusual at the time, with the missing first family as mentioned by Doublecourt in this thread and the marriage of Jane Williams (Joseph's widow) to William Burland before the next census return.
Regards,
Goleudy
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Wales / Re: Louisa Maud Jones 1870's
« on: Friday 17 July 09 15:41 BST (UK) »
I have now looked at the 1911 census and in this one Louisa claims she was born in Cardiff, Glamorgan and not Blackwood, Monmouthshire. Louisa stated her age as 35, being born in 1876 and not 1877.
Regards,
Goleudy
Regards,
Goleudy
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Wales / Jane Williams mid 19thC
« on: Sunday 24 May 09 12:19 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to research the family of my great great grandmother. I have already mentioned Jane Williams' husband on here under an ASTON article in 'one name studies.'
Jane Williams was born about 1831 in Merthyr, Glamorgan. On the 13th May 1855 at Llanhilleth Parish Church, Monmouthshire Jane Williams married Joseph Aston a forge agent.
In 1864 whilst Joseph was the Inn Keeper of the Railway Inn at Trevethin, Pontnewyndd, Monmouthshire he died leaving Jane a widow with 5 children, Elizabeth, Joseph, William Henry, Mary Jane and Ann Maria who I have already mentioned in the Aston article.
In the spring of 1866 Jane Williams went on to marry in Monmouthshire a William Burland who was born in Bristol about 1833. They had 3 children, Edward Burland born about 1866, Thomas born about 1868 and Mary born about 1870. All the children were born in Trevethin, Pontnewyndd, Monmouthshire. Jane Burland died in Monmouthshire during the Oct to Dec period of 1872.
The only extra piece of information I have on Jane Williams is from the copy of her marriage certificate with Joseph Aston. Jane lists her father as a Henry Williams and his profession was noted as a miner.
Since then I have drawn a blank and I would be interested to hear from anyone else whose family tree interconnects with mine and have researched this Williams family.
Regards,
Goleudy
Jane Williams was born about 1831 in Merthyr, Glamorgan. On the 13th May 1855 at Llanhilleth Parish Church, Monmouthshire Jane Williams married Joseph Aston a forge agent.
In 1864 whilst Joseph was the Inn Keeper of the Railway Inn at Trevethin, Pontnewyndd, Monmouthshire he died leaving Jane a widow with 5 children, Elizabeth, Joseph, William Henry, Mary Jane and Ann Maria who I have already mentioned in the Aston article.
In the spring of 1866 Jane Williams went on to marry in Monmouthshire a William Burland who was born in Bristol about 1833. They had 3 children, Edward Burland born about 1866, Thomas born about 1868 and Mary born about 1870. All the children were born in Trevethin, Pontnewyndd, Monmouthshire. Jane Burland died in Monmouthshire during the Oct to Dec period of 1872.
The only extra piece of information I have on Jane Williams is from the copy of her marriage certificate with Joseph Aston. Jane lists her father as a Henry Williams and his profession was noted as a miner.
Since then I have drawn a blank and I would be interested to hear from anyone else whose family tree interconnects with mine and have researched this Williams family.
Regards,
Goleudy
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Occupation Interests / Re: Publicians in 1869
« on: Saturday 23 May 09 23:43 BST (UK) »
Hi ZKT,
What you need to do is get in touch with the Cheshire county records office. Under the Licensing Acts, 'Ale Houses Act 1551', 'Inns Act 1603' and the 'Alehouses Act 1792' all publicans had to be licensed by Justices of the Peace. Those granted licenses were kept on a list and held in the records of the Courts of Quarter Sessions which are held by the local county records office. When you look at the Cheshire Courts of Quarter Sessions for 1869 you should be able to match your great-granddad to the relevant public house.
Regards,
Goleudy
What you need to do is get in touch with the Cheshire county records office. Under the Licensing Acts, 'Ale Houses Act 1551', 'Inns Act 1603' and the 'Alehouses Act 1792' all publicans had to be licensed by Justices of the Peace. Those granted licenses were kept on a list and held in the records of the Courts of Quarter Sessions which are held by the local county records office. When you look at the Cheshire Courts of Quarter Sessions for 1869 you should be able to match your great-granddad to the relevant public house.
Regards,
Goleudy
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Wales / Louisa Maud Jones 1870's
« on: Saturday 23 May 09 01:36 BST (UK) »
I know this is a little like looking for a needle in a haystack but here goes! I've already mentioned Louisa Maud Jones on here under a BEBB article in 'one name studies.'
As I mentioned there, my great granddad was Richard Howell Bebb born in Bedwellty, Tredegar, Monmouthshire in 1862. He married my great grandmother Louisa Maud Jones on the 2nd October 1897 at the Salem Welsh Baptist Chapel, Hannah St, Porth, Glamorgan. After which they were living at Under 104 High Street, Treorky, Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan.
In the 1901 census return Louisa states she was born in Blackwood, Monmouthshire in 1877. I have a copy of their marriage certificate and Louisa's father was listed as a William Jones, also living in Treorchy while his occupation was listed as being a coal trimmer. Louisa's address before marriage to Richard was 18 Cardiff Road, Treorky, Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan.
Since then I have drawn a blank and I would be interested to hear from anyone else whose family tree interconnects with mine and have researched this Jones family.
Regards,
Goleudy
As I mentioned there, my great granddad was Richard Howell Bebb born in Bedwellty, Tredegar, Monmouthshire in 1862. He married my great grandmother Louisa Maud Jones on the 2nd October 1897 at the Salem Welsh Baptist Chapel, Hannah St, Porth, Glamorgan. After which they were living at Under 104 High Street, Treorky, Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan.
In the 1901 census return Louisa states she was born in Blackwood, Monmouthshire in 1877. I have a copy of their marriage certificate and Louisa's father was listed as a William Jones, also living in Treorchy while his occupation was listed as being a coal trimmer. Louisa's address before marriage to Richard was 18 Cardiff Road, Treorky, Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan.
Since then I have drawn a blank and I would be interested to hear from anyone else whose family tree interconnects with mine and have researched this Jones family.
Regards,
Goleudy
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Occupation Interests / Re: life expectancy of coalminers
« on: Friday 22 May 09 21:00 BST (UK) »
Another point I would also add is, don't forget that colliers quite often changed their working positions within collieries. Due to physical injury, stress or even falling out of favour a miner might be working up top one month or below ground the next. They might go from being a 'carpenter' making and fitting the props to wagon repairer above ground due to illness but then having a reduced income being up top with children to feed they might go back below ground again.
When it comes to job titles in collieries the censuses are a great resource in the latter 1800's as the title of coal miner and collier were replaced with exact positions being held. The workers in a colliery tended to be paid a flat wage except for the 'hewers' and it is these men who hold that position to look out for. Hewers instead of being on a flat wage were paid on a bonus system and they were paid by the amount of coal they cut. This is where the fatalities occurred on a regular basis and was the most dangerous job in a colliery. There were limited places at the coal face due to sheer physical limitations so there were men always waiting to take their place if they didn't cut enough coal. Besides, if they didn't cut the coal they lost their income. This led hewers to cut corners, they had to if they were to meet the demands put upon them. So carpenters would be sent back before all the props were in place so they could return to cutting coal and so on with little short cuts like this that became a deadly game of chance or dare.
When it comes to job titles in collieries the censuses are a great resource in the latter 1800's as the title of coal miner and collier were replaced with exact positions being held. The workers in a colliery tended to be paid a flat wage except for the 'hewers' and it is these men who hold that position to look out for. Hewers instead of being on a flat wage were paid on a bonus system and they were paid by the amount of coal they cut. This is where the fatalities occurred on a regular basis and was the most dangerous job in a colliery. There were limited places at the coal face due to sheer physical limitations so there were men always waiting to take their place if they didn't cut enough coal. Besides, if they didn't cut the coal they lost their income. This led hewers to cut corners, they had to if they were to meet the demands put upon them. So carpenters would be sent back before all the props were in place so they could return to cutting coal and so on with little short cuts like this that became a deadly game of chance or dare.
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Occupation Interests / Re: life expectancy of coalminers
« on: Thursday 21 May 09 15:23 BST (UK) »
The only life expectancy of miners I'm sure of are those of the miners of South Wales. The figures of death and injury rates held by the University of Wales are for South Wales collieries at their peak of production. On average for every mining shift a collier was KILLED every 6 HOURS and a collier was seriously injured every 12 MINUTES! Add this average up over a 20 year period and the casualty rates are mind boggling to say the least. Also during this period a new Baptist Chapel was formed and erected on average every 8 DAYS. They were God fearing folk to say the least. These death rates do not include the retired colliers who died of pneumoconiosis. As to the cmhrc their figures for Welsh collieries are wholly inaccurate which is understandable due to the constant changing of county boundaries and the inaccurate records maintained by the collieries but enough records and anecdotes were retrieved by the University of Wales to correlate their data.
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One Name Studies: A to G / DAVIES of Pembrokeshire 19th Century
« on: Friday 13 March 09 00:11 GMT (UK) »
My great grandmother was Louisa Ann Davies born in 1863 in Roch, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire. In 1881 she married William Henry Aston and they moved to Penrhys, Glamorgan. Louisa's siblings were David Alexander born in 1848 in Nolton, Pembrokeshire and died 1871 in Australia; Norrine born in 1849 in Camrose, Pembrokeshire; Mary also born in Camrose in 1851 and died 1911; John Henry born in 1853 in Roch, Pembrokeshire; William also born in Roch in 1855; Ruth born in 1857 in Nolton, Pembrokeshire and died 1938 in Nanticoke, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA; Benjamin also born in Nolton in 1860 (was a Coal Miner and Baptist Minister) and died 1936; Lewis born in 1862 in Roch, Pembrokeshire and died 1943 in Boolgroo, Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia; and Naomi also born in Roch in 1866.
Louisa died in 1947. Louisa's father was Henry Davies and he was born in 1823 in Lambston, Pembrokeshire. Henry was a coalminer in Roch in the 1851 census but by the 1861 census he was an agricultural labourer in Nolton. In the census from 1881 onwards he had moved to Cwm Rhondda, moving from Ystrad Rhondda to Penrhys in Glamorgan where he had to returned to the job of being a collier which he did until his death on the 13th of August 1891 in Ystrad Rhondda.
Henry Davies had married an Eliza Davies of the same surname. Eliza was born in 1826 in Maenclochog, Pembrokeshire. Eliza died on the 16th of December 1893 in Ystrad Rhondda, Glamorgan.
That is as far back as I've been able to go as I've been unable to find the parents or siblings of either Henry or Eliza. With both having the common surname of Davies and both coming from Pembrokeshire I know this is a tall order and a long shot but if there are any relatives on here who have traced this Davies family any farther back down the line then, please get in touch!
Regards,
Goleudy
Louisa died in 1947. Louisa's father was Henry Davies and he was born in 1823 in Lambston, Pembrokeshire. Henry was a coalminer in Roch in the 1851 census but by the 1861 census he was an agricultural labourer in Nolton. In the census from 1881 onwards he had moved to Cwm Rhondda, moving from Ystrad Rhondda to Penrhys in Glamorgan where he had to returned to the job of being a collier which he did until his death on the 13th of August 1891 in Ystrad Rhondda.
Henry Davies had married an Eliza Davies of the same surname. Eliza was born in 1826 in Maenclochog, Pembrokeshire. Eliza died on the 16th of December 1893 in Ystrad Rhondda, Glamorgan.
That is as far back as I've been able to go as I've been unable to find the parents or siblings of either Henry or Eliza. With both having the common surname of Davies and both coming from Pembrokeshire I know this is a tall order and a long shot but if there are any relatives on here who have traced this Davies family any farther back down the line then, please get in touch!
Regards,
Goleudy