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Durham / Re: Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall
« on: Thursday 12 July 12 03:20 BST (UK)  »
It's been a while since I looked at all this. I think Ann Benton/Renton/Rammage was buried  October 31st 1756 at St Johns in Leeds although the register also includes Leeds St Peter. Found the record on Ancestry .com. It just states wife of Archibald Ramage. Since he married Smithson Peverell in 1757 the dates jive.
Also on Ancestry is a family tree listing Archibald being born 1715 in Duddingston Midlothia Scotland. I contacted the tree owner and she found the info via a notice in Volume 28 of The Thoresby Society publications dated 1745. It said he was from Edinburgh, goodness knows where he died. He could even have left the country after Smithson died?

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Durham / Re: Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall
« on: Friday 23 January 09 19:53 GMT (UK)  »
The full marriage bond entry I just received states: 13 Oct 1757 Archibald Ramage ( widower, gentleman) age 39 of Chester Le Street obtained a licence to marry Smithson Peverell age 32 of Chester Le Street. Surety Joseph Tiffin of Chester Le Street, note married 15 Oct at Chester Le Street.
What I find of interest there is that he is listed as living in Chester not Wakefield and he is a gentleman. That suggests a decent standard of living.
Does it help us though!

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Durham / Re: Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall
« on: Wednesday 21 January 09 23:24 GMT (UK)  »
I agree with the Wakefield assumption. Since a lot of the children were christened at Saint Peter in Leeds and that isn't too far away from Wakefield maybe that was his 'local'. After Smithson died he probably would not have gone back to Durham.
I think it's great that so many of us are hunting this ancestor, surely between us we'll track him down. I've been trying to find a directory with a listing in, no luck yet of course. I really wonder why he and Smithson migrated between Chester Le Street and Wakefield. It appeared to be constant though. How far would that have been for them?

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Durham / Re: Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall
« on: Tuesday 20 January 09 19:56 GMT (UK)  »
I have just received the marriage bond index from DRO and in 1757 Archibald Ramage age 39 and a widower obtained a licence to marry Smithson Peverell age 32.
That puts his birth date at about 1717 -1718 and hers 1724-1725.
We now know there was a first wife.............

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Durham / Re: Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall
« on: Friday 16 January 09 00:02 GMT (UK)  »
Henry Rammage was buried at the anglican church of St Mary and St Cuthbert on 14 December 1837 ( per DRO)

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Durham / Re: Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall
« on: Thursday 15 January 09 23:47 GMT (UK)  »
Here's the certificate, I did think about husbandman. It may say former on the second line?

Moderator comment: image removed - only small portions of certificates may be posted to assist with handwriting.


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Durham / Re: Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall
« on: Thursday 15 January 09 21:09 GMT (UK)  »
Trying to do this properly I had ordered the death certificate for Henry Rammage who died in 1837 at Chester Le Street. It came today and is not terribly readable so I'll not scan it on here.
It states he died at Chester Le Street on December 11th 1837, his name was spelled Henry Rammage, male, 68 years old died of old age ( gasp) Informant was John Allison Governor of the Workhouse, Chester Le Street, registered on December 13th. Henry's occupation is the box I can't read. It appears to say Husband and then another incomplete word. even with a magnifier not good. Husband wasn't ever an actual occupation and if one was in the workhouse I doubt if an occupation was relevant.
Anyway wanted to share stuff that I come across. Thanks for replying, if we all work backwards maybe we  can define it all. I'll be looking at the Chester Le Street parish films when they come in ( about three weeks or so). Stay posted.
Hi Moira yes it's me again!

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Durham / Re: Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall
« on: Thursday 08 January 09 02:15 GMT (UK)  »
Just come across these messages today.
 I've been trying to prove that my ancestor Elizabeth Rammage,baptized 24 Jan 1813, daughter of Henry Rammage, labourer by his wife Isabella is the youngest child of Henry Ramage and Isabella Airey's family. I did notice on her marriage record to Christopher Carr in 1830 that one of the witnesses was Thomas Maving. Smithson Mary Rammage married Thomas Maven 26 May 1818, so I'm fairly confident that she is from the same family. Spelling errors were the norm in those days.
I too have not been able to find anything on Archibald other than than the records from Durham records online. It is now my mission to keep at it, having found this number of interested ancestral family members!
Has anyone got any further info on Smithson Mary Ramage? I think she may have called herself just Mary, unfortunately for census purposes.

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