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Berwickshire / Re: Service family at Duns and Coldstream
« on: Thursday 14 August 25 19:17 BST (UK)  »
After a very long time and much water under the bridge, I have revisited my Service tree, and finally discovered, via a newspaper obit for Thomas Speirs Service that I stumbled across today, that the family connection to the Duke of Roxburghe is through Robert Service, youngest brother of my John Service. Robert was apparently living in Kelso by 1914. Unfortunately, so far all I have on him at this point, is that he married an Alice/Alison Wilson at Cairnhill, Duns, in 1884, and by 1901, he was at Heiton, Roxburgh, and working as estate forester foreman. So far my searches have turned up a toll-keeper, a cattle dealer and a publican of the same name at Kelso, (oh and the Kelso Laddie!), but not my chap :(

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The White House Soulbury
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 16:33 BST (UK)  »
Yes, they do, and so do those documents that town planners like to draw up for conservation purposes! They sometimes yield some very interesting information in amongst the jargon.

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The White House Soulbury
« on: Wednesday 18 June 25 09:32 BST (UK)  »
Darnity, thank you so much for those links. I've spent the last half hour or so going through the 1921 sale catalogue and map on the Soulbury site, and it's been massively helpful. The Leighton Buzzard one might be able to help me to locate where exactly on Wing Road my lot were in 1911, as their house only has a name, not a number, in that year's census. I suspect that the house numbers along that road may have changed over the years, too, as they don't seem to follow a logical sequence on Google Street View. 

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The White House Soulbury
« on: Monday 09 June 25 09:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for going to all that trouble, Alan. (I don't have access to Valuation Rolls at all, so I'm afraid I don't know much about them.) No you haven't missed something - it's just that that's when Henry first pops up in the area. He's in Wing Road, Linslade for the 1911 census, so given what you've found, he may well have been working for someone else initially. Henry's son was born in Soulbury in late 1912, so I know they're there by then though there doesn't seem to be any other mention of the family until 1914/15.

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The White House Soulbury
« on: Monday 09 June 25 09:00 BST (UK)  »
Good morning Alan. If you have access to earlier Valuation Rolls or directories, and it's not too much trouble, would you mind very much looking to see when T.H.H's name first appears in connection with Soulbury? I don't know whether Henry was employed by him right from the start in 1911, or whether he initially worked for someone else in Soulbury or surrounds. Annie was a staunch Wesleyan so would have been a committed member of the congregation in Soulbury yet I've only found one mention of her in the newspaper, when she took part in a church fund-raiser for the Belgian refugees in 1914.

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The White House Soulbury
« on: Sunday 08 June 25 20:12 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that extra info, Alan, it's really useful. I would kill to know how Thurston Holland Hibbert came to have property in Soulbury and especially how Henry came to be his groom. Thurston was the grandson of Lord Knutsford (and later became 4th Viscount Knutsford himself) and his parents had their country house in Hertfordshire. As I mentioned before, he married Viola Clutterbuck in 1912 and by 1921 was farming at Milebush near Linslade. Maybe I should look into Fabian Trollope.

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The White House Soulbury
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 18:46 BST (UK)  »
It's a possibility. I've trawled through the local papers to see if he was mentioned in any of the War Tribunals, but nothing so far. Mr Robinson on the Liscombe Estate nearby had to appeal on behalf his chauffeur, coachman and private secretary (no names given)who were all deemed unsuitable in some way or other, though the first two were only given 6 months exemption, and the secretary conditional exemption. I did wonder if the coachman was Henry because he is described as being "the only man employed in the stables apart from a boy of 15 or 16."

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The White House Soulbury
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 18:05 BST (UK)  »
Every little scrap of information helps, Alan, and that's really useful stuff. It also may explain why Henry and Annie lived in Wing Road initially, if the place was run down and needed repairs before anyone could move in, and also why they only appear on the electoral roll there in 1915.

What intrigues me is that Thurston Holland Hibbert was called up in August 1914, as he was part of the Hertfordshire Yeomanry, so he was out of the country for a large chunk of the time Henry was in his employ. The Herts Memories website has transcriptions of his diaries and Henry doesn't seem to have gone with him, even though he was still young enough to do military service, so was he considered to be more useful at home managing the stables? An awful lot of the other stud farms in the area had men removed by the dozens.

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Buckinghamshire / Re: The White House Soulbury
« on: Saturday 07 June 25 15:51 BST (UK)  »
Yup, that's the right house.

Thurston Holland Hibbert does have a connection to one of Henry's employers, but not the one I thought it was! T.H.H. married Viola Clutterbuck whose pa, a wealthy brewer, was at Putteridge Park (aka Putteridge Bury) near Luton from 1911, and that's where Henry and Annie popped up around 1917 ;D


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