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Essex / Re: charlotte taylor 1840 orsett
« on: Sunday 11 January 09 14:42 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: lynne j on Thursday 20 March 08 14:11 GMT (UK)
Hi, I have recieved a birth certificate for charlotte taylor 1840 born orsett father william hankins taylor mother charlotte taylor nee brenner ,mothers residence at the time Is chadwell Is this In orsett ,on all of the census there is nothing apart from grays orsett  so I am curious to where chadwell is
lynnej

Chadwell  or chadwell st mary does come under grays/orsett essex.hope this helps

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Essex / Re: charlotte taylor 1840 orsett
« on: Sunday 11 January 09 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
Chadwell, or Chadwell st Mary is indeed part of Grays Essex.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: helping a newbie!!
« on: Thursday 08 January 09 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
Barbara, i will look at that site in a min:)
Just been on the Bradfordfhs website.Very informative about the area.Not sure how much you and Gill know about the area so i thought i would post what i had found.Not sure if it will help or confuse!!

First of all it states: The registration district of "Bradford West Riding" is used as the society`s geographical area of interest and covers much more than the original township of Bradford. Within this area are Townships and Hamlets such as: Adwalton,Allerton,Bierley,Bolton,Bolton Woods,Bowling,Bradford Moor,Buttershaw,Calverley,Clayton,Cleckheaton,Cullingworth Gate,Denholme,Drighlington,Dudley Hill,East Bierley,East Bowling,Eccleshill,Fagley,Farsley,Frizinghall,Fulneck,Great Horton,Greengates,Heaton,Hewendon,Horton,Hunsworth,Idle,Lsidterdyke,Lidget Green,Little Horton,Low Moor,Manningham,Nabwood,North Bierley,Oakenshaw,Odsal,Pudsey,Qeensbury,Saltaire,Scholes,Shipley,Thornbury,Thornton,Toftshaw,Tong,Troydale,Tyersal,Undercliffe,West Bowling,Wibsey,Wilsden,Windhill,Wrose and Wyke.

It then states Registration sub districts 1851-1891 censuses.The name of each sub-district is in UPPERCASE.Lowercase are chapelries,Hamlets or villiages which were enumerated in that sub-district.
SUBDISTRICTS:WILSDEN, THORNTON, SHIPLEY, IDLE, CALVERLEY, HORTON,BOWLING, PUDSEY,NORTH BIERLEY, DRIGHLINGTON, CLECKHEATON.

Chapelries,Hamlets etc: Hunsworth, Wyke, Tong, Clayton, Denholme, Allerton, Heaton, Manningham, Windhill, Bolton, Eccleshill, Farsley, Thornbury, Tyersal.

Thought i would post this incase you or Jill see anything on the census that i don`t. :D

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: helping a newbie!!
« on: Thursday 08 January 09 18:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Gill and Barbara,

Regarding John and Rosa`s marriage certificate:The witnesses were a Thomas Edward Livermore who is Rosa`s half brother and an Elizabrth Ann Rounce (who from what i can see on freebmd after doing a birth search for all areas) most likely was a friend of Rosa`s as she appears to have been born in Orsett Essex.  No help what so ever to us!!   Am i following........No.Im more confused than ever!!LOL.At least i am having fun in my search :-*  Even John and Rosa`s kids names dont give me much help.They had 4,Caroline Emily b 1900,she must have been named after Rosa`s younger sister Caroline Emily.Then came John Willie Taylor born 1902 and then came my nan Julia Ann.The name Julia has run in the family but it has been Julia Maude.Maybe Ann is a clue to John`s family or maybe if Rosa and Elizabeth Ann Rounce were really close she may have named her after her....if you know what i mean!!Then there was Lilian Violet born 1909.Doris Harriet Taylor Johnson born 1914 as explained in previous note was by another man.OOH the plot thickens.LOL. There are no Lilian Violet`s in the tree that i can see but that doesn`t really mean a thing.Just to add fuel to fire im going to look a little into the Annie Wilkinson,just to rule it out but....Rosa`s older half sister Sarah ann Livermore married a man called William Wilkinson Fell who came from Driffield Yorkshire.From what i can see William was an only child and his mum i think was Ann Wilkinson so either thay wasn`t married when he was born or she carried her maiden name on by giving him it as his middle name.I am going to now have a quick look to see if Annie Wilkinson`s dad is in anyway related to William Wilkinson Fell`s mother.Now are you all following me. ::) I know it is a very long shot but i would rather rule it out now than find out 5 years down the line that it has been staring me in the face for all this time. Also what do you make of the censuses where there is a JWTaylor living say with his mum who is unmarried and still at home with her parents? Were they allowed to name a man on the certificate,my god they could have put anyone on there?  I ask this as i had my eldest daughter(now 15) before i married her dad and he had to be present to agree that he was going on the certificate.  I am wondering if he was dumped on grandparents or his mum had him out of wedlock and his dad wasn`t around?  Silly questions i know but i don`t really understand the rules and regulations of registering births back then.....that`s if there was any rules!! :-*
Will keep you all posted on how i get on.

Julia.xx

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: helping a newbie!!
« on: Wednesday 07 January 09 20:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,

I am so surprised and very grateful that my brick wall has sparked such a huge interest.The elizabeth and john Golding that you have mentioned........there is a man on gene`s who has these in his tree.He admits that his John W has vannished in 1901 without a trace but he states that his john is John William and not Willie and also the father William is alive and kicking in the 1901 census so he has ruled out that it is the family that i am looking for. :'(

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: helping a newbie!!
« on: Tuesday 06 January 09 22:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jillruss 8)

I have never found John on any census other than the 1901, this is due to the fact that there are so many John w Taylors and fathers called William that it really is so hard to determine which one is him,especially as i have so little info on him.

Now regarding how Lancs came in to it.When i have been searching on various websites for info on Bradford, i often wondered why the search engine was coming up with Bradford Lancashire.I now know that there is a Bradford in Lancashire.....you learn something new every day ::)

The 1901 census def states Bradford Yorks so i can rule out Lancs,but i have wondered if maybe he necessarily wasnt born in Brad Yorks but lived there as a baby and just gave this area as his birth place.I think the best avenue is to rule out all the John Willie`s and then start looking at John William.I may order the birth certificates for John Willie in Oldham but i wont be silly spending my money on ordering loads.  Why are so many names listed as John W or John H, why can`t they just state the middle name it would make our research a lot easier. 8)

Anyway im glad you like a challenge,do it`s over to you.................................good luck.xx

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: helping a newbie!!
« on: Monday 05 January 09 22:06 GMT (UK)  »
 ;D Hi  all,

Thankyou all for racking your brains for me. I will clarify for you all where i am with this mystery man.  His name is John Willie Taylor...Willie not William.This is is stated on his marriage certificate and also on his childrens baptism records, so until i find anything telling me other than this i am looking for a John Willie, not John William :)

According to the 1901 census he was born in Bradford Yorks and according to the marriage and census record he was born around 1870-71,this is assuming he hasn`t lied about his age!!His  father was William Taylor as stated on his marriage certificate who at the time of marriage(1899) was deceased.This is the only info that i have on him and yes i can`t wait for the 1911 census but this poses another problem for me......he left his wife and supposedly went to oz .The 1911 census will hopefully narrow down the years that he left as they had their last child in 1909 and Rosa had another child by someone else in 1914!! Confused...I AM!! :)

There isn`t alot of John Willie Taylors born in the surrounding years when he was born but none are for Bradford,well not that i can see. So either he was born somewhere else and lived in or near Bradford and stated Bradford on the census as this was his closest town or he never came from there and was lying...or his name was actually John William Taylor.Whatever the reason is this man doesn`t want to be found!!    Maybe he never went to oz maybe he was in prison? Who knows :)

I just want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart for all looking for me and also for your suggestions.Feel free if you want to try and solve the mystery of this man ;)

Without a mothers name or any siblings he is too hard to find.Maybe now is the time to ask for a proffessional to help?  God bless you all and i will let you know if i make anymore progress.I will try to trace the John Willie of Oldham and Northwich,you never know he may be my man.xx

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: helping a newbie!!
« on: Monday 05 January 09 17:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hi PaulineJ,

Good idea!!  I am getting on to it right now.......whilst cooking dinner!!
Thanks for your help. The man is such a headache!! ::)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: helping a newbie!!
« on: Monday 05 January 09 17:05 GMT (UK)  »
Could John Willie actually be John William??  Just to confuse me even more!!

Thankyou to you all for all your help and suggestions.  Maybe i should just order birth certificates around the area and suggested year of birth and just try to eliminate........well i would if i won the lottery!!      Diddy i am going to follow your lead up if i can.Thanks.

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