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The Common Room / Re: Who/where were the Registrars?
« on: Wednesday 19 March 25 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much everyone. I feel much better informed now.
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Gloucestershire / Re: Benjamin Kerby died Bristol 1829?
« on: Sunday 16 March 25 18:06 GMT (UK) »You're welcome.
Even spotted a Joseph Kerby watchmaker in Pontypool!! see column 3
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3393075/3393079/32/joseph%2BOR%2Bkerby
They get everywhere!!
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Gloucestershire / Re: Benjamin Kerby died Bristol 1829?
« on: Sunday 16 March 25 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all of your efforts - much appreciated.
It is looking more and more that the Bristol Kerbys are not connected to our Kerbys and the fact that they were both watchmakers is just a coincidence
It is looking more and more that the Bristol Kerbys are not connected to our Kerbys and the fact that they were both watchmakers is just a coincidence
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The Common Room / Who/where were the Registrars?
« on: Saturday 15 March 25 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Obviously I know that since 1837 births, marriages and deaths were meant to be officially registered but I don`t know how this was actually done or how it was enforced.
I`m thinking in particularly about a couple of deaths from my family which happened in a village and the informant was someone who was unable to sign her name. Surely every village didn`t have a registrar? But if there wasn`t one near to the event it must have been easy not to bother!
I think there was a benefit to register babies to make them "official" and presumably marriages were overseen by a vicar. But why go to the trouble of registering a death if you could get away with not doing it?
I`m thinking in particularly about a couple of deaths from my family which happened in a village and the informant was someone who was unable to sign her name. Surely every village didn`t have a registrar? But if there wasn`t one near to the event it must have been easy not to bother!
I think there was a benefit to register babies to make them "official" and presumably marriages were overseen by a vicar. But why go to the trouble of registering a death if you could get away with not doing it?
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Gloucestershire / Re: Benjamin Kerby died Bristol 1829?
« on: Saturday 15 March 25 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all of your efforts.
To clarify - I know pretty much everything about the Benjamin Kerby born 1783 who ended up in Coventry as he is our direct ancestor. But I can`t find anything about the Benjamin Kerby born about 1773 who was in Bristol.
I have seen the Will for Sarah Kerby mentioned above and it doesn`t involve the Bristol Benjamin.
I hadn`t known about the Quaker Kerbys and will try to investigate them
To clarify - I know pretty much everything about the Benjamin Kerby born 1783 who ended up in Coventry as he is our direct ancestor. But I can`t find anything about the Benjamin Kerby born about 1773 who was in Bristol.
I have seen the Will for Sarah Kerby mentioned above and it doesn`t involve the Bristol Benjamin.
I hadn`t known about the Quaker Kerbys and will try to investigate them
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Gloucestershire / Benjamin Kerby died Bristol 1829?
« on: Saturday 15 March 25 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Apologies as this is complicated. We have an ancestor Benjamin Kerby who was born in Clerkenwell in 1783 but moved to Coventry - he was a watchmaker.
His father was Isaac Kerby (also watchmaker) born about 1746, lived and died in Clerkenwell. His parents were another Isaac Kerby and Martha Tubb also based in London,
My query is about different Benjamin Kerby who appears in Piggots Directory 1822 & 1825 as a watch and clockmaker in King Street Bristol. He also is in a death notice in the Bristol Mirror for 27/1/1829 for him saying he was in his 56th year - and describes him as Benj Kerby Senior. This would make him born about 1773. There is a possible marriage to Ann Lee in Bristol 13/5/1804.
(There`s also a Benjamin Kerby in prison in Bristol in 1811!)
I feel he must be related to us due to the spelling of his name (Kerby rather than the more common Kirby) and his profession of watchmaker. But I can`t find a birth for him or any other link.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
His father was Isaac Kerby (also watchmaker) born about 1746, lived and died in Clerkenwell. His parents were another Isaac Kerby and Martha Tubb also based in London,
My query is about different Benjamin Kerby who appears in Piggots Directory 1822 & 1825 as a watch and clockmaker in King Street Bristol. He also is in a death notice in the Bristol Mirror for 27/1/1829 for him saying he was in his 56th year - and describes him as Benj Kerby Senior. This would make him born about 1773. There is a possible marriage to Ann Lee in Bristol 13/5/1804.
(There`s also a Benjamin Kerby in prison in Bristol in 1811!)
I feel he must be related to us due to the spelling of his name (Kerby rather than the more common Kirby) and his profession of watchmaker. But I can`t find a birth for him or any other link.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
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The Common Room / Re: Prison sentence "last month solitary"
« on: Friday 14 March 25 09:51 GMT (UK) »I had a look at newspaper items with the phrase ‘last month solitary’. There are lots of them suggesting it was quite a common element of a sentence. But I didn’t find anything discussion of the thinking behind it. What I did see however were quite a few ‘first and last months solitary’.
Perhaps the idea was to encourage convicts to reflect upon their choices before being released.
Thanks for that, I think you are probably right. For the case which I saw reported in a newspaper, the offender was urged to reflect upon the teachings of the priest in the prison. I did wonder how the "solitary" element was managed but it sounds like that will remain a mystery
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The Common Room / Prison sentence "last month solitary"
« on: Thursday 13 March 25 14:28 GMT (UK) »
I have noticed that several prison sentences are for so many months, "last month solitary".
Please could anyone explain what this means. I`m looking particularly at records for 1830s
Many thanks
Please could anyone explain what this means. I`m looking particularly at records for 1830s
Many thanks
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The Common Room / Re: Might an "Irish woman" mean something else?
« on: Wednesday 12 March 25 09:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much for all of those.
I really can`t find any links to Ireland for that branch of the family. There are 3 newspaper reports of the case and that particular one does use rather "imaginative" language. Amongst other things it states that she was holding "an interesting baby"!?
I am pleased to say that in later years Phoebe married and lived a long and apparently blameless life
I really can`t find any links to Ireland for that branch of the family. There are 3 newspaper reports of the case and that particular one does use rather "imaginative" language. Amongst other things it states that she was holding "an interesting baby"!?
I am pleased to say that in later years Phoebe married and lived a long and apparently blameless life