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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: REDGATE, Magilligan Parish
« on: Sunday 25 March 12 05:15 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I do have substantial information about Martha Redgate, who first married Michael Maginnis and had several children before marrying William Black in about 1864, and having a son John Black.  I have information about her parents, siblings, etc. and very, very much want to talk to you about your research.  Please email me at (*) or call (*).  Barbara Miller

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Caldwells from Magilligan
« on: Tuesday 01 December 09 17:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you to all for this excellent discourse on the ancient graveyards of Magilligan, which has been a great help to me, far away in the USA.  My Sweeney, McNally, Redgate, and Canning ancestors are buried at St. Aidan's and (probably) the COI graveyard.  I manage a very old cemetery in Pennsylvania, and I hope I might offer some advice based on my own experience.  Your ancestors might well have erected a gravestone which is still there, but "invisible."  

Frequently gravestones become unstable, fall, and are simply left in place by caretakers.  Within a very few years, their weight pushes them down into the soil a few inches and they are quickly covered by a layer of grass sod and become invisible.  Thus, you might look at a spot where your ancestors ought to be and see nothing, when in fact there are gravestones a few inches (usually four to six inches) under the grass.  You can detect them by taking a thin but strong metal skewer (like for shishkabob), probing the soil, to see if you can detect the general outline of such a stone a few inches down.  (Of course, Irish graveyards are full of stones of all types, but the outline of a fallen gravestone is fairly distinctive.)  If you discover a gravestone, you do have to get the permission of the cemetery caretaker to cut the sod and roll it back to uncover it, but it is usually worth the effort, especially if the stone fell face down and the inscription has been protected from the elements for a long time.  No harm is done to the grave site, you can just roll the sod back after.  (Of course, if the stone fell face down, you'll need some help to gently turn it over to read the inscription.  Those things are hundreds and even over a thousand pounds in weight.)

I look forward to following your continuing discussion.

Sincerely, Barbara Miller, Allentown, PA

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Church of Ireland parish abstracts (NAI)
« on: Monday 02 March 09 21:08 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Gortinanima:
I had a sneaking suspicion that you were Bobby Forrest!  Thank you for this excellent information.  And thank you for all your great work on the Scots-Irish Origins series.  You have already brought great joy to me and all my Redgate-searching cousins flung far and wide along the Easter Seaboard of the USA and Canada.

Barbara Miller

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: REDGATE, Magilligan Parish
« on: Monday 02 March 09 20:42 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much, Aghadowey.  How great to have so much expertise at my fingertips.

Barbara

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« on: Monday 02 March 09 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
Gortinanima:

Thank you, very much.  That gives me a good idea on how to proceed.  I am very grateful for your expertise.

Barbara

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« on: Monday 02 March 09 18:57 GMT (UK)  »
Gortinanima:
You are a real gem to have posted so many excertps of Mr. Moody's diary.  Is there any way for me to obtain a copy of the diary from far away in Pennsylvania, USA?  I am very anxious to learn background about events and living conditions in Magilligan and Dunboe parishes at any point during the 1800s, so I would love to know if Mr. Moody's diary mentions the Great Wind of January 1839, or famine/fever conditions at various times, or the actions of their landlord, Henry Hervey Bruce.  Perhaps his diary is limited to only events important to his immediate family. 

My Magilligan ancestors include Sweeneys, Cannings, Redgates, McAnally/McNallys, who lived at Clooney, Ballymagoland, Drumahorgan, Oughtamore, and Aughill, mostly.  Since Mr. Moody lived at Clooney prior to moving to Coleraine, he might mention events affecting my ancestors, as well.

In particular, my g-g-g-grandfather James McNally of Ballymagoland died on October 20, 1841, at a young age (38).  I'm wondering if a specific disaster/accident occurred on that date (which Mr. Moody might mention).   Supposedly, my g-g-g-g-grandfather Sweeney (name believed to be Patrick Sweeney) died at age 119 at Magilligan.  Perhaps this event might be sufficiently unusual to be mentioned.

I don't want to burden you with many lookups for me.  I appreciate any advice you can give me on how best to review a full copy of the diary.

Thank you so much.

Barbara Miller

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: REDGATE, Magilligan Parish
« on: Monday 02 March 09 18:11 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Aghadowey:
Thank you so much for the Coleraine Chronicle information.  Do you know where I can look at the Coleraine Chronicle, either online or on microfilm?  I hope to visit Magilligan this year or next year and would like to plan my research time as efficiently as possible.  Did the Coleraine Chronicle begin in 1844?  Is there anyone you know who might do a lookup on a specific date?

I am hoping to find accounts of the Great Wind of January 1839, and what damage it caused in Magilligan or Dunboe or Aghanloo parishes.  (I know this probably predates the Coleraine Chronicle.)

Barbara Miller (Allentown, PA, USA)

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: REDGATE, Magilligan Parish
« on: Sunday 15 February 09 14:45 GMT (UK)  »
To all, thank you for your very prompt and helpful replies.  Gortinanima, as you saw, my William Redgate family is the one in Aughil in the 1831 census.  I have found lots of Redgate data in the Magilligan/Tamlaghtard R.C. registers and in the 1700s Tamlaghtard Church of Ireland records, but somehow I missed the 1800s CofI microfilm when I visited PRONI, and I did not know that Brian Mitchell's Genealogy Center had closed.  The widow of William Redgate, Margaret Rudgate, is in Aughil in Griffiths Valuation.  I did not have the Martha Redgate or William Redgate marriages that you gave me.  Thank you!

Thanks for your wonderful advice, and for creating a new thread for my inquiry.  Being new to Rootschat, I did not know how to do that.

Slan, Barbara Miller

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Derry (Londonderry) / REDGATE, Magilligan Parish
« on: Sunday 15 February 09 04:39 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Aghadowey:
You mentioned that there are Magilligan Church of Ireland records - marriages 1820-26,1832-34; burials 1824-29, 183-34, 1837, 1844-1962. Vestry book 1820-43, 1844-1870, 1855-1897. Baptisms 1844-1961. Session book 1813-1857 contains baptisms 1814-54, 1857; marriages 1814-45, 1846-1923; members lists 1814/15, 1836; committee minutes 1823-28, etc.

Do you know where I can access them for research? (PRONI, the Genealogy Center, etc.)  I am looking for records of my Redgate ancestors, who lived at Aughil, Magilligan parish in the 1831 Census.

Thanks for all your sound advice and experience!

Magilliganlass (Barbara Miller in Allentown, PA, USA)

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