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Dublin / Re: Thomas Cooper, Dublin, Engraver, Born around 1809ish
« on: Thursday 04 November 10 21:08 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: shanew147 on Thursday 04 November 10 20:08 GMT (UK)
It looks like the marriage was before the start of registration for non-Catholic marriages (1845) - so parish records would be required. Full BMD registration started in 1864 - see : Introduction to Irish Records

If they married in Dublin City they may be included in the IrishGenealogy website mentioned earlier.

Knowing Amelia's maiden might make the search a bit more focused.. and also confirm, or rule out, any matches found.



Shane

My family are Catholics so I am wondering if this goes right back to Ireland? - it will be interesting to find out

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Dublin / Re: Thomas Cooper, Dublin, Engraver, Born around 1809ish
« on: Thursday 04 November 10 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: shanew147 on Thursday 04 November 10 20:51 GMT (UK)
unfortunately it looks like Mary Jane's elder brother died quite young..

  Burial of Henry Cooper of 43 Mary St, 11 Sept 1845
  Parish - St. Mary CofI

Address is the same as listed on his baptism - and his baptism shows same parents and father's occupation as Mary Jane.


Shane

Hello Shane,

My family are Catholics, I wondered if
Quote from: shanew147 on Thursday 04 November 10 20:08 GMT (UK)
It looks like the marriage was before the start of registration for non-Catholic marriages (1845) - so parish records would be required. Full BMD registration started in 1864 - see : Introduction to Irish Records

If they married in Dublin City they may be included in the IrishGenealogy website mentioned earlier.

Knowing Amelia's maiden might make the search a bit more focused.. and also confirm, or rule out, any matches found.



Shane

Wildo Shane,

I have just found and ordered Alfred's birth cert so will let you know how I get on

Will

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Dublin / Re: Thomas Cooper, Dublin, Engraver, Born around 1809ish
« on: Thursday 04 November 10 20:43 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Hackstaple on Wednesday 03 November 10 21:26 GMT (UK)
His Fleet Street address in 1851 may show he worked with newspapers or weeklies. From about 1846 or so magazines like the London Illustrated News and the Graphic had a huge amount of work for engravers.

Many thanks. I guess he moved to an area in London that would support his trade

I wonder if there are any engravings by him. I will put that on my list of things to search for

Thank you for your help - much appreciated

best wishes

Will :)

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Dublin / Re: Thomas Cooper, Dublin, Engraver, Born around 1809ish
« on: Thursday 04 November 10 20:41 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: shanew147 on Wednesday 03 November 10 21:01 GMT (UK)
two directory entries that could fit :

Pettigrew & Oulton 1843

  Thomas Cooper, 40 Mary street , engraver & cooper plate printer
   
   the street listing in this directory show the address is shared with a
   Mr. Roger Cooper (no trade or occupation included)

Thom's 1848

  Thomas Cooper, 59 Grafton St - engraver & lithogr.
    listed in the trades index as 'engraver, stationer, and fancy wafer maker'

no sign of him operating a business at either address in either 1834 or 1850



Shane

Thanks again Shane,

I think this is one and the same Thomas. Thats very interesting about Roger Cooper - I wonder who he might be?

Fancy Wafer Maker? The mind boggles! ;D

Best wishes

Will

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Dublin / Re: Thomas Cooper, Dublin, Engraver, Born around 1809ish
« on: Thursday 04 November 10 20:01 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: shanew147 on Wednesday 03 November 10 20:42 GMT (UK)
do you know Amelia's maiden name from the birth cert for Alfred ?


Shane

Hello Shane,

I have got Amelia's name from the London Census and do not have a maiden name unfortunately. I do not know how to find out about Irish Marriage records.

I will see if I can find Alfred's birth certificate on BMD - thank you for the leads!

Will

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Dublin / Thomas Cooper, Dublin, Engraver, Born around 1809ish
« on: Wednesday 03 November 10 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
I have traced the maternal side of my family to a Thomas Cooper. It would seem that he moved to London as a result of the famine. Census returns have him down as coming from Dublin and that his trade was an engraver. I am told there are Dublin trade directories from the period and he is listed as having a business there before coming to London.

London Census returns have him down as being born 1808/1811. He was married to Amelia (Known as Annie). They had one child called Mary Jane born in Dublin in 1846 - There next child as far as I can tell was Alfred who was born in London in 1849.

I do not know very much about how to trace my ancestors back in Ireland and would really welcome any info/advice about Thomas

Many thanks

Will  :)

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Occupation Interests / Re: Watch Maker
« on: Tuesday 30 December 08 10:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi! I am interested in finding out more about Langford THURBIN who I believe was a clockmaker (?). I see in the thread that there are a lot of LANGFORD's who are clockmakers and wondered if he got his first name and his access to this profession through a connection to this family. Any leads about this person would be most welcome :)

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Occupation Interests / Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« on: Tuesday 30 December 08 10:04 GMT (UK)  »
Hi! I am looking for any references/instances of THURBIN and variants who might have been Watermen and Lightermen please. I am told that the family had strong connections to the Thames and wondered if any of them had this trade. Many thanks for your help :)

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