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AlanR83:  We may be distantly related (like thousands of other Sweeneys).  I descend from Timothy Sweeney (circa 1810) who married in Macroom in 1835.  His first son, Patrick, was born in 1836 in the Townland of Mashanaglass just 2 miles southeast of Macroom.  His sixth child, Cornelius, my GreatGrandfather, was born in 1847 in the Macroom Parish but I know not which Townland.  Among the other children there are two listed from the Townland of Coolacoosane just east of Mashanaglass.  I have no record of the generation above Timothy.  Since his first son was named Patrick it would seem to follow naming tradition that Timothy's father would have been Patrick (circa 1780).  BTW, this Cornelius from 1847 married in Bandon, produced three children there including my Grandmother Mary, emigrated to Connecticut in 1883 and produced additional children including a Cornelius Jr.

Nice to meet you.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

AnnClare:  Alas, no, I don't have an image of the original data.  What I have were typed, filled in or computer generated forms.  A distant relative obtained these about 15 years ago from Mallow.  I suspect via the Mallow Heritage Center.  The forms relate to the 1835 marriage of my G-G-Grandparents (Timothy Sweeny & Margaret Nevill) and the subsequent births of their eight children. All are listed from the Parish/District of Macroom.  A townland is given only for the first three children as I show above.  The sixth child, Cornelius 18470608 would be my G-Grandfather.  He later moved to Bandon and married there.  His third child, Mary 18820415, was my immigrant Grandmother.  I've been to Bandon, but not to Macroom.  I hope to visit soon but I want to identify the townland sources first so that I may walk the local roads.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

PS:  These Sweeneys came to America in the mid-1880's and married into my patriarch line of Hayes who had come from the Village of Loughmore, just north of Thurles, in North Tipperary.

I have ancestors who came to Australia in 1850.  The immigration records state that they came from LoughMAGH - is this just another interpretation of Loughmore/Loughmoe???

Hello, Julie.  Here is my son on our 2009 trip.  I took his photo on the east side of the village center.  The photo is in the vicinity of Purcell Castle and looking westward.  The spelling on top would be the traditional IRISH spelling and pronunciation of the village while the lower would be the modern Anglicized version.



If you have records from 1850, remember that most common folk were illiterate and relied on the doctor or the parish priest for any formal document writing.  Spelling of place and surnames is a bit of an adventure when studying Ireland so we won't worry about the differences between your request and that on the top of my sign.  Another side of my family is from Macroom in County Cork.  I have church records from a family of seven children with four different spellings for the surname!  As far as I know, the sign in my picture still sits there today. 

I'd suggest you browse to maps.google.com and put these coordinates into the search field:

52.756245, -7.819766  (might also require N52.756245, W7.819766 instead)

Once you zoom down to this point on the road, drag in the little yellow man icon for "Street View".  There is the sign.  The street view photo was taken in 2009 so I don't know the today status.  Once you are in street view, start marching westward until you get to the center of the village and have a pint at Stapleton's Bar.

What surnames are you derived from?  Mine are Hayes, Maher, Ryan (of course) and Finnegan.  Any of those in your history?  I have church records back to 1780 in this village with distant relatives still living there today.  A 230 year trail!

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

Ah, Stawell, now we're getting VERY close.  On the eastern side of Loughmore there are perhaps 15 or 20 'townland' units.  Among those are Clogharailymore and Clogharailybeg (meaning upper and lower respectively, you have to see the local terrain to understand) (I've seen them spelled a variety of ways).  Each of these townlands has perhaps 5 families.  Clogharailymore is further subdivided in that its western portion is/was known as "Old Bawn" and its eastern portion known as "The Islands".  I have ancestors born in both.  I think The Islands currently has only two families and I've had tea at both houses in 2010.  I can't prove it on paper, but I believe I am related to both of these two families.  One of the two is an active local historian and she might be able to help you track the names and data that you have.  I'd be happy to chat further off-line and to share maps, contacts, etc.  Contact me at:
(*)Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

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I have just returned from a week in Loughmoe (Loughmore).  On last Tuesday, 2/17/09 I walked nearly the entire distance of the old road up from Thurles to Loughmoe.  I was tracing the several local townlands of my own heritage.  I am the first of the line to return since the famine departure.  I hail from Hayes, Finigan, Ryan, and Maher.  I now have firm paper record back to circa 1790 in these townlands.  I met for hours with Monsignor Maurice Dooley of the local parish who gave me a wealth of history and church record.

Regarding the village name, as we walked north on the old road we found this sign:



As we reach near to Loughmoe Castle, we found this sign:



BTW, the local (only) pub recently changed names.  It was Loughmore Inn for years, but is now Stapleton's bar.  Exceptionally friendly people.

I have been unable to locate any date information about the old, stone Loughmoe Abbey in the cemetery of the current local church.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA