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Northumberland / Re: Glendening Northumberland
« on: Saturday 18 April 09 18:02 BST (UK)  »
"ca" simply means "circa"

Carlisle is mentioned in the baptismal entry for Eleanor in 1803 at Saint Cuthbert's, as I recall. I also seem to recall that his burial entry at Saint Cuthbert's might have mentioned his being about 60 years of age. I'll have to find my file and materials to be certain. Otherwise, the parish registers of Saint Cuthbert's are available on microfilm.

Let me see what I can dig out.

David in Wisconsin

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Northumberland / Re: Glendening Northumberland
« on: Saturday 18 April 09 03:12 BST (UK)  »
Simply putting my line out so all can tie me in where I might fit:

John Glendenning (b. ca. 1769; d. 1829, Darlington) m. Jane Jackson (b. 1770, Whorlton; d. 1807, Darlington)
parents of
Eleanor Glendenning (b. 1803, Darlington; d. 1881, Darlington) m. Anthony Smith (b. 1795, Bentham; d. 1876, Darlington), parents of
Anthony Smith, Jnr. (b. 1849, Darlington; d. 1906, Springfield, Illinois, USA) m/1 Grace Wrathall (b. 1844, Barnard Castle; d. 1885, Sprinfield, Illinois, USA--his first cousin, daughter of Elizabeth Glendenning & Thomas Wrathall and granddaughter of John Glendenning and Jane Jackson, above; m/2 Julia Ann Cain (b. 1861, Kinmundy, Illinois, USA; d. 1954, Springfield, Illinois, USA)
Edward Alexander Smith (b. 1895, Springfield; d. 1975, Springfield) m. Elsie Viola Farrand (b. 1898, Petersburg, Illinois; d. 1966, Springfield.

Ed & Viola are my maternal grandparents.

David McDonald

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Northumberland / Re: Glendening Northumberland
« on: Monday 22 December 08 02:45 GMT (UK)  »
Alright, then.

John, brother of James (1796) has four children to my reckoning:
George, (1824-1830)
William (1826)
Jane (1834)
George (1837)--known to have had a daughter

All at Darlington Saint Cuthbert. There's certainly a gap there that would allow for John to fit in, but I find no record at St Cuthbert.

Let's keep at this.

DM

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Northumberland / Re: Glendening Northumberland
« on: Monday 22 December 08 01:04 GMT (UK)  »
My question becomes how do you tie him to Barton? Census records? Family lore? Since the marriage predates civil registration, does the church register indicate the hometown?

I'm not trying to say you're wrong--I am trying to show how to strengthen the suggestion that the man you're seeking and the man I already have are, in fact, the same person.

There appears to be no question that the man I have does not remain in Darlington. Whither he goes, I have no idea. He--or someone of the same name--does have a child christened there in 1831. The family as I know it is concentrated in the Darlington/Barnard Castle/Newcastle area throughout the 19th Century, and only a bit of the next generation winds up leaving for the States, including what becomes my line.

DM

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Northumberland / Re: Glendening Northumberland
« on: Sunday 21 December 08 23:32 GMT (UK)  »
How is it that you know your James is the same as the James christened at Barton in 1796?

DM

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Northumberland / Re: Glendening Northumberland
« on: Sunday 21 December 08 21:37 GMT (UK)  »
John is shown as a gardener in the burial record for his wife in 1807. I have a reference in my notes that say he may be from Kirby Stephen, but I don't know where that comes from.

I suspect he married a second time, to Hannah Maugham, on 15 Oct 1811 at Darlington St. Cuthbert.

Eldest son, George, was a butcher and died at Darlington in 1848.
John, next younger to James, was an inmate at the Darlington workhouse in 1871.
Robert was a bricklayer at the time his illegitimate daughter was christened in 1823.

Daughter Eleanor's husband Anthony Smith was a labourer and/or a teamster at Darlington.
Youngest daughter Elizabeth's husband Thomas Wrathall was a grocer at Barnard Castle. Their daughter married Eleanor's youngest son (first cousins intermarried) and they came to America in 1873. I am a descendant of Anthony by his second marriage to an American woman, which occurred within the month of his first wife's death.

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Northumberland / John, of Carlisle
« on: Sunday 21 December 08 19:19 GMT (UK)  »
The baptismal entries at Barton St. Cuthbert and Barton Saint Mary did not indicate a former domicile.

The baptism of my Eleanor (1803) says "Carlisle" as John's place of origin, but does not mention a parish. That's at Saint Cuthbert's Darlington. His marriage was at Middleton Tyas, 23 November 1790 to Jane Jackson. She was a native of Whorlton, Durham, daughter of George Jackson and Jane Hanby.

The children of John & Jane:
George (1791) Barton St Cuthbert
Jane (1794) Barton St Mary
James (1796) Barton St Mary
John (1798) Barton St Mary
Robert (1801) Barton St Cuthbert
Eleanor (1803) Darlington St Cuthbert
Elizabeth (1806) Darlington St Cuthbert

Jane was buried in 1807, with the rites at St Cuthbert, Darlington.

I believe John was buried 8 May 1829, St Cuthbert, Darlington.

David

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Northumberland / Re: Glendening Northumberland
« on: Sunday 21 December 08 13:16 GMT (UK)  »
The James I am tracking had a son, James, christened 26 July 1831 at Saint Cuthbert's, Darlington.

The siblings of James were christened at Barton, Saint Cuthbert's and Barton, Saint Mary's, with the youngest two being "done" at Saint Cuthbert's in Darlington in 1803 and 1806 respectively. Jane, their mother, dying in 1807.

David

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Northumberland / Re: Glendening Northumberland
« on: Saturday 20 December 08 22:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, David.

James Glendenning, christened at Barton Saint Mary's in 1796, son of John Glendenning, later lived at Darlington in Saint Cuthbert's parish. He had a son, James, christened in Darlington in 1831. The extended family of children of John Glendenning and his wife, Jane Jackson, were in the Darlington area through much of the nineteenth century. A younger daughter, Eleanor, is my ancestor, having been christened at Saint Cuthbert's in 1803.

(another) David

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