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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
« on: Sunday 07 December 08 00:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Hope you don't mind me responding to such an old post but have just joined and was searching for hits for 'Wistow'.

I'm a descendant of William Thompson of Wistow, born 1791, elder brother of Charles Thompson of Wistow, born 1794. If I remember right, Charles lived into his 90s, and had a gravestone in Wistow churchyard. If he belongs to you and you're interested, I can search out a photo of it for you?

The Thompsons came to Wistow in 1713. We think now they came from Beverley.  I have done quite a lot of research on them, as my mum was a Thompson. She was born at Stockbridge Farm, Ryther. All the Thompsons in 18thC and 19thC Wistow parish records - and all those in Cawood - are our family.

My website www.stillingfleettragedy.org has an image or two of Cawood and Stockbridge Farm and one or two of the 19thC Thompsons, on it, and concerns a Thompson relative. Do take a look if we're related!  If you have info or are interested in the info I have, do contact me. I have spent a lot of time with Cawood and Wistow parish records!

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: storrs of wistow.
« on: Saturday 06 December 08 23:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi. I have lots of ancestry in Wistow, going back to at least the 1630s right into the 20thC... including the Thompsons and Goltons - no Storrs but they do appear as witnesses on wedding certs once or twice.

One of my ancestors, Richard Golton, was also Wistow sexton - I think at a date before your's - and there is no gravestone for him but he is recorded as sexton in the parish records.  Ironically, sextons rarely seem to have a gravestone themselves often as they're drawn from the ranks of poorer parishioners. (Some of my Goltons are down as 'paupers' in the parish records).

The Storrs were an extremely well established old yeoman farming family.  There is still a Mr Storr in Cawoody. (he has the wood yard opposite and just down from Cawood Castle). He and I are probably the only true locals left round here as it's all incomers now! PM me if you are ever in the area and I will tell you where he can be found!

Can get over and have a look later in the week if no=one else can, for your MIs...as my husband is working this weekend so no car. I only live a couple of villages away.   If you look on the 'Access to Archives' and go into 'East Riding' you will find loads of Storr refs no doubt. A 17thC or 18thC Storr wrote a diary which is fascinating reading and has been published - you may be able to find some info online. He farmed at Scalm Lane which is kind of near Biggin/Cawood way.

Off the top of me head don't recall a Storr M.I but I may be wrong. One of my ancestors was vicar of Wistow 1652-1665 and there is not one trace of him or our family, inside the church. He is not even listed on the list of vicars - as he was appointed by parliament and got rid off when the monarchy came back. That really annoys me!  There is a tomb of the Beverley family inside the church which is also one of my ancestors.  Anyone going, try and track down the keyholder as the church has some of the most interesting things inside of any church round here!

If no-one else gets there I will try later this week.

My Wistow names include: Rawson/Rowson, Beverley, Byard, Thompson, Golton, Glew, Turner, Shillito, and  Richardson Abbot. If any of those ring bells do get in contact!

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Marriage in Howden 1788
« on: Saturday 06 December 08 23:19 GMT (UK)  »
Ah I know this Thomas Smith of Bubwith. He was from an old farming family in the Bubwith area since the 17thC.  and he crops up quite often in the 1780s and 90s Bubwith churchwarden's accounts which you can find at the Borthwick Institute, York University, as he was often a churchwarden in the parish. He couldn't sign his name, but had his own distinctive mark! 

He didn't come from Bubwith, wed at howden, and then go to Winterton - but returned to Bubwith back to his farm. I know that as he continued to sign off sections of the churchwardens' accounts into the 1790s.


The fact he was wed at Howden the first time round,  has no profound signficance as I see his wife was from Howden.... but... Bubwith folk do seem to have used Howden Minster as much as their own parish church, with or without a Howden connection.  If the entry says he is Thos Smith of Bubwith, then I'm pretty certain he is the churchwarden, who was widowed and took a second wife - he lived and died in Bubwith but like so many Bubwith folk, wed at Howden. (Locals pronounce it 'Bub-ith' BTW!) He returned to Bubwith with Wife No 1, as he continues to appear as churchwarden and his wife died there.

I am a direct descendant of his second wife, Judith Hepton. He was widowed from this first wife, and married Judith in Bubwith 12.8.1794.  Thomas died 20.4.1803, Bubwith. I don't know about children from the first marriage and would be very interested to know if there were any, as my Judith had an illegitimate baby, Paul,  ten years before she married Thomas Smith. We have been unable to find any records of who Paul's father was, but somehow doubt it was Smith as Paul did not inherit the Smiths' farm, and ended up a cordwainer, later a labourer.  Also Paul retaned the surname Hepton, never using 'Smith' to our knowledge.

It seems he was sent away to Howden and apprenticed out, probably not long after Judith married Thomas Smith. Had he been the natural father, Paul would surly have had a happier ending!  The Heptons were another yeoman farming family, like the Smiths.  It's worth being aware that Bubwith is a parish made up of several different villages/hamlets, including Gunby, Breighton, and Foggathorpe along with others.  Smith and his father, Timothy Smith,  appear to have been churchwardens on and off over  a long period of time.

Judith died in 1820, in Bubwith.

I should add, there are two Smith families in Bubwith that appear to be unconnected. One is a family of labourers, the other a farming family. So be a bit wary when researching Bubwith you have the right Smiths.

I live fairly locally, and have been unable to locate a grave for 'our' Smiths, although there are plenty of Hepton graves.

Local people often used Howden Minster for ceremonies, no real idea why, they just did. As recently as the 1970s, a relative of mine who lived in Wressle, had her funeral at Howden. It has no real deep significance. I have several ancestors who didn't live in Howden, but were married there.

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