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Hey Girls: 
You're both out for the night.  Anyway, I contacted a distant relative who has been doing a chart and who sent me some attachments that I can't open a few years ago.  I have contacted her again tonight.  She told me that a couple of years ago that she could trace back to Samuel Hedges in 1771.  Who knows, maybe this is the father of all the brothers!!!!!!!  Anyway, looks like we are going to solve it one way or the other. 
As for me, I was raised in Romford, Essex, and most of my mother's immedate family lived in Collier Row.  Grandfather Cumbers and Alvey owned an old pub called the Rose and Crown (according to my mother), and also owned the land near Clock House Lane, that became a housing tract after WWII.  Romford must have been a little village in those days.
When I get the chart, I will paste it on the site for you.  J.

Hi Jenny
I don't think that I shall even attempt to research the Hedges line judging by the headaches you have had. I thought that I would print off all the messages on this subject and ended up with 166 pages to read at my leisure.
I have got about a quarter of the way through and there is some very interesting stuff. I saw some references to IGI christenings/baptisms. Can you tell me where I can find this as some time ago I found an interesting website for gypsy baptisms in Kent where I got some good information. I also noted that you live in Kent which is strange since I spent 30 years living in north Kent (must be the gypsy blood in us taking us back to our roots). If you are registered with GenesReunited I can open my family tree to you so that you can get some idea of where I come from. I am rubbish with computers and I just fiddle about but I am going to see my daughter tomorrow and her husband is a bit of Nerd so I shall get him to list some of the old photographs I have, although I am not 100% sure who the people are. One other little snippet I remember from my youth, is that an old boy in a pub in Ongar told me that Alvey Cumbers (Hedges) used to go around Collier Row in a cart pulled by an old brown and white mare. No relevance really but it might tie in with the comment that she was a travelling carpet saleswoman.
Thanks for your help and I shall get back to reading up on the pages I printed off.
Keith

I am trying to research my family (Cumbers) but 2 generations married into Romany Gypsy families and I can find very little information in the BDRM websites. Does anybody have any ideas how I can find out the information I require.?
Also my greatgrandfather Alfred Cumbers and his wife Alvey (Hedges) are shown as living at The Old Rose and Crown Collier Row but I have not found any records of such a Pub. I am sure that it must have existed since it is shown on my father's birth cert. in 1919 and I also have an old an old photographic postcard from an "ever loving sister-in-law" to my granny at the address. I can only think that this sister-in-law is one one of my granddad's sisters either Eliza b. 1887, Olive b. 1891, Alice b. 1893 or Phyllis b.1897. Has anyone any information on these people or his brother Henry Cumbers b.1899