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Australia / Re: South Australia Death - Llewellyn WILLIAMS
« on: Monday 13 February 17 12:41 GMT (UK)  »
Following a suggestion made through a PM i have now obtained a transcription of this Llewellyn's death in 1958. Unfortunately, it is not the person I am looking for as this Llewellyn was born in Australia. Ah well, must go on searching. What a pity that there is not a complete index for the whole of Australia instead of the individual states.

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Trying to find Harry Clarke Braithwaite in 1901 census
« on: Saturday 13 April 13 19:40 BST (UK)  »
Harry Clarke Braithwaite (HCB) was born in the June quarter of 1879 at Sandhutton near Thirsk. He appears in the 1881 census with his parents John 28 labourer born Thornton Steward, Mary Hannah 33 born Sandhutton and HCB aged 2. The 1891 census for Sandhutton shows him with his grandmother Sarah Thompson a widow aged 70 born Middleham and HCB is 12 a scholar. In the 1911 census HCB is at West Rounton Gates, Northallerton aged 32 a railway plate layer. His mother Mary Hannah Waterworth aged 62 married for 22 years (2 marriages) is a visitor. Harry is described as a widower but this is wrong as his wife whom he married in 1906 left him, had child (see below)  by another man and the 3 of them emigrated to New Zealand. Perhaps as far as he was concerned she was dead.

The birth certificate of the above child Harry Horner Braithwaite born in 1908 says his father is Harry Braithwaite a coachman. However, I and the present Horner descendants in NZ think that the father was William Henry Horner aka Harry Horner who was a coachman. It would appear that when they emigrated they simply started calling the child Harry Horner dropping the Braithwaite part of his name.

XX Horner who is working in the UK wants to obtain a 'grandparent visa' and needs to prove that a grandparent was born in the UK.  I am trying to find HCB in the 1901 census to see what his occupation was then, in case it might have been 'coachman'. When he married in 1906 he was a confectioner.  I have looked at Sandhutton but he is not there. I have tried various wild cards but no luck. Can anyone find him?  I also cannot find his father after 1881or his mother in the 1891 or 1901 censuses.

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As I have managed to make contact with the Horner family in NZ I no longer need to look at the probate records so will treat this as completed.

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Durham Lookup Requests / Re: Harry Horner Baptism Lookup Etherly COMPLETED
« on: Tuesday 09 April 13 22:45 BST (UK)  »
Sorry for the confusion. I had not realised that I had missed out William Henry Horner's surname. Thanks to JenB who has found the birth entry I was looking for. I think that while Ann\Annie was still married to Mr Braithwaite she had a child by WH Horner which has been registered as Henry Horner Braithwaite. WHH, Ann\Annie and the infant then emigrated with the child being called Henry Horner for the rest of his life.

Perhaps no wonder that Mr Braithwaite decided to say he was a widower in the 1911 census as he had been cuckolded.

Peter

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Isobelruss sorry for any confusion. It also did not help that I missed out the horner suname in paragrph 2. As JenB says Annie must have left Mr Braithwaite for Mr Horner.

JenB I think you have solved the problem. So who was the father Braithwaite or Horner? Horner i guess.

Peter

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Durham Lookup Requests / Harry Horner Baptism Lookup Etherly
« on: Tuesday 09 April 13 19:17 BST (UK)  »
Ann Maria Williams was born in Co. Durham on 7 December 1882. She married a Henry Clarke Braithwaite on 15 October 1906 but was called Annie Maria. Mr Braithwaite in the 1911 census said he was a widower.

In the 1901 census William Henry (known as Harry) is shown with his wife and young daughter at The Lodge, Bishopgarth. Wakefield. His wife died in Hexham in the first quarter of 1907 and his daughter died in Wakefield district in the second quarter of 1907.

A passenger list shows a William Hy (Henry) Horner coachman, Mrs Horner (no initials) and Hy (Harry) Horner infant sailing to New Zealand on 18 September 1908. I cannot find a marriage for WHH and Annie between his wife’s death and when he emigrated. Neither can I find a birth for Harry who I am told was born on 30 April 1908. It is possible that Annie gave birth in the Etherly area where her mother lived.

Could anyone look at the baptism records for Etherely? I am also posting a similar message on the West Riding site in case she gave birth back at WHH’s home in B|ishopsgath, Wakefield.

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Ann Maria Williams was born in Co. Durham on 7 December 1882. She married a Henry Clarke Braithwaite on 15 October 1906 but was called Annie Maria. Mr Braithwaite in the 1911 census said he was a widower. 

In the 1901 census William Henry (known as Harry) is shown with his wife and young daughter at The Lodge, Bishopgarth. Wakefield. His wife died in Hexham in the first quarter of 1907 and his daughter died in Wakefield district in the second quarter of 1907.

A passenger list shows a William Hy (Henry) Horner coachman, Mrs Horner (no initials) and Hy (Harry) Horner infant sailing to New Zealand on 18 September 1908. I cannot find a marriage for WHH and Annie between his wife’s death and when he emigrated. Neither can I find a birth for Harry who I am told was born on 30 April 1908. It is possible that Annie gave birth in the Wakefield area. Could anyone look at the baptism records for Wakefield, possibly trying Bishopsgarth first? I am also posting a similar message on the Durham site in case she gave birth back at her parents’ home.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Trying to find Annie Maria Horner COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 03 April 13 09:51 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the information which you have sent to me. A brilliant result. I will write to the family and let you know if they respond.

Peter

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Auckland Archives NZ Probate Lookup
« on: Tuesday 02 April 13 11:12 BST (UK)  »
Good idea. You will see I have amended the title.

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