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World War One / Re: Need help finding WW1 UK MIC
« on: Monday 09 June 08 02:55 BST (UK) »
And to answer Sandy's last post, yes, that is him. Thanks for clearing that up for me 
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World War One / Re: Need help finding WW1 UK MIC
« on: Monday 09 June 08 01:56 BST (UK) »
I said 106395 didn't I. And here I am looking right at the form with the number 106935 on it. My appologies. Thanks for the correction Sandy.
I have a total of 18 pages in the file.
Jeff
I have a total of 18 pages in the file.
Jeff
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World War One / Re: Need help finding WW1 UK MIC
« on: Sunday 08 June 08 23:58 BST (UK) »
He was born in Milford Haven, Pembrokeshire 17 March 1883. He had two sisters, no brothers. His younger sister Evelyn served with the Red Cross in Cardiff although the Red Cross has no record of her.
He was definitely someone who was willing to do whatever it took to make ends meet. He emigrated to Canada twice, looking for a better life. I know for certain he joined the Canadian Veteran Guards during WW2 because the pay was good, he got to travel and would end up with a pension. And I've always believed he went home to serve during the first world war for similar reasons.
Jeff
He was definitely someone who was willing to do whatever it took to make ends meet. He emigrated to Canada twice, looking for a better life. I know for certain he joined the Canadian Veteran Guards during WW2 because the pay was good, he got to travel and would end up with a pension. And I've always believed he went home to serve during the first world war for similar reasons.
Jeff
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World War One / Re: Need help finding WW1 UK MIC
« on: Sunday 08 June 08 22:59 BST (UK) »
I'm starting to believe that he never went to France, despite what he may have been telling other members of the family. Someone once suggested to me that the bars on his uniform may be fake. It would certainly explain why a MIC can't be found. And after inspecting his pension records again and realizing there is nothing in them about serving in France or any other overseas location, I'm starting to think this may have been the case.
The attached photo was taken after his service with the Canadian Veteran Guard during WW2.
The attached photo was taken after his service with the Canadian Veteran Guard during WW2.
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World War One / Re: Need help finding WW1 UK MIC
« on: Sunday 08 June 08 17:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks Iria, that one does look promising doesn't it. Unfortunately the "J" in that names is a "John". I had someone look at the medal rolls for that one. At the time, it was the closest match I could find.
I've also checked a number of "Harris" leads as Annie had pointed out and there were a couple that looked like mine but again, when I checked the medal rolls (or in one case, the pension records) it was obvious that it wasn't my Harries.
The records I have are pension records. The duplicate copy of his Attestation form says nothing about a previous number or service before the war started. He enlisted 1 May 1915 at Ormskirk and was assigned to the ASC Remount Division. He remained with the remounts until 11 Jan 1920. There is a casualty form in his records (Form B 103) that gives an account of where and when he was stationed and when he was promoted. But it says nothing of overseas service. On a disability form he even claimed he was in England the entire time.
Even if he didn't go overseas, he should have been entitled to a BWM and Vic (I believe). But what I really want to find is evidence of a Star. In post war pictures of him in uniform I can easily make out the trio. And he used to say he did go to France for a time.
Thanks everyone for looking...
I've also checked a number of "Harris" leads as Annie had pointed out and there were a couple that looked like mine but again, when I checked the medal rolls (or in one case, the pension records) it was obvious that it wasn't my Harries.
The records I have are pension records. The duplicate copy of his Attestation form says nothing about a previous number or service before the war started. He enlisted 1 May 1915 at Ormskirk and was assigned to the ASC Remount Division. He remained with the remounts until 11 Jan 1920. There is a casualty form in his records (Form B 103) that gives an account of where and when he was stationed and when he was promoted. But it says nothing of overseas service. On a disability form he even claimed he was in England the entire time.
Even if he didn't go overseas, he should have been entitled to a BWM and Vic (I believe). But what I really want to find is evidence of a Star. In post war pictures of him in uniform I can easily make out the trio. And he used to say he did go to France for a time.
Thanks everyone for looking...
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World War One / Need help finding WW1 UK MIC
« on: Sunday 08 June 08 03:48 BST (UK) »
I've been unable to find a MIC for my great-grandfather.
William James Harries
R4/106395
Sergeant, Army Service Corp
Fortunately I was able to find his service records on Ancestry just as my subscription was running out.
I've tried every possible search combination at DocumentsOnline and the few I found that looked promising turned into dead ends. I'm hoping someone may have better luck at this than I did. Perhaps some MICs were not imaged by the NA and have been or will be imaged by Ancestry. Could someone with access to Ancestry attempt to find this MIC for me?
Thank You
Jeff
William James Harries
R4/106395
Sergeant, Army Service Corp
Fortunately I was able to find his service records on Ancestry just as my subscription was running out.
I've tried every possible search combination at DocumentsOnline and the few I found that looked promising turned into dead ends. I'm hoping someone may have better luck at this than I did. Perhaps some MICs were not imaged by the NA and have been or will be imaged by Ancestry. Could someone with access to Ancestry attempt to find this MIC for me?
Thank You
Jeff
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Pembrokeshire / Re: Blethyn Family
« on: Friday 02 February 07 04:05 GMT (UK) »
Barry Johnson has put together an excellent website which traces the history of Millford Haven's trawling industry.
http://www.llangibby.eclipse.co.uk/milfordtrawlers/index.htm
There are three trawlers in the index registered to Charles Blethyn of Milford Haven
Alpha, 1905-1911
Doris, 1897-1903
Hesto, 1899-1902
But the website is not just an index. If also includes (where available) log book entries, newspaper mentions and other bits of info about each of the indexed vessels.
Jeff
http://www.llangibby.eclipse.co.uk/milfordtrawlers/index.htm
There are three trawlers in the index registered to Charles Blethyn of Milford Haven
Alpha, 1905-1911
Doris, 1897-1903
Hesto, 1899-1902
But the website is not just an index. If also includes (where available) log book entries, newspaper mentions and other bits of info about each of the indexed vessels.
Jeff
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Moray (Elginshire) / Re: Riach & Younie families, Moray and beyond
« on: Thursday 01 February 07 02:53 GMT (UK) »
It would appear that John Younie, the one who married Ellen Mavor and left for Canada, was really the son of George Younie and Ann Brander. He was born at Hillockhead (farm - just south of Rothes) 11 November 1819. I have come across a few references to this family on the internet with George Younie (John's father) born 12 Jan 1771 at Tomlea, Wester Elchies to James Younie and Anne Clarke.
George died 8 April 1840 and is buried at the Boharm Churchyard in Moray. His gravestone inscription says he was in his 70th year and resided at Hillockhead. The parish records show he was also living at Hillockhead in 1818 when he and Ann Brander were married.
I have been unable to find anything that actually proves George Younie of Hillockhead was born in Tomlea to James and Anne Younie in 1771. Does anyone with Younie connections have anything on this George Younie that would lead me to his parents?
Jeff
George died 8 April 1840 and is buried at the Boharm Churchyard in Moray. His gravestone inscription says he was in his 70th year and resided at Hillockhead. The parish records show he was also living at Hillockhead in 1818 when he and Ann Brander were married.
I have been unable to find anything that actually proves George Younie of Hillockhead was born in Tomlea to James and Anne Younie in 1771. Does anyone with Younie connections have anything on this George Younie that would lead me to his parents?
Jeff
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Moray (Elginshire) / Re: younie rafford
« on: Wednesday 28 June 06 05:10 BST (UK) »
What I've found to be an excellent Morayshire resource is the Moray Council's Local Heritage Service Library Index (libindex)
http://www.moray.gov.uk/LocalHeritage/Assets/html_pages/morayheritage.html
The libindex has references to stuff like newspaper articles, parish records, cemetery records... And once you find something of interest you can order copies through Moray Council's online store (I believe it's called a Heritage Request). You tell them what you want and they send you a quote for their services - all online. Although the store seems to be down for retrofit at the moment.
yn9man: if you look around the libindex you'll find a way to search for surnames in a particular cemetery. The Old Rafford Churchyard is indexed and you should be able to find your Elspet Mellis (Younie) d 28 feb 1862 as well as James d 22 Oct 1854. I couldn't find an Alexander. I also don't see John and Elspet Key but considering how long ago they died it's possible their stone is now unreadable if it exists at all. The cemetery is still intact and well maintained.
William Younie born abt 1721 and Janet Duncan married 6 Sept 1741 are as far back a I've seen this line researched. Although in the IGI I've seen Janet as Jean and their marriage as 9 June 1741. Guess I won't be convinced until I see a copy of the actual register.
My connection to John and Elspet Key is through their son John and wife Anne Collie. Their son John who married Hellen Mavor emigrated to Canada in 1858.
Jeff
http://www.moray.gov.uk/LocalHeritage/Assets/html_pages/morayheritage.html
The libindex has references to stuff like newspaper articles, parish records, cemetery records... And once you find something of interest you can order copies through Moray Council's online store (I believe it's called a Heritage Request). You tell them what you want and they send you a quote for their services - all online. Although the store seems to be down for retrofit at the moment.
yn9man: if you look around the libindex you'll find a way to search for surnames in a particular cemetery. The Old Rafford Churchyard is indexed and you should be able to find your Elspet Mellis (Younie) d 28 feb 1862 as well as James d 22 Oct 1854. I couldn't find an Alexander. I also don't see John and Elspet Key but considering how long ago they died it's possible their stone is now unreadable if it exists at all. The cemetery is still intact and well maintained.
William Younie born abt 1721 and Janet Duncan married 6 Sept 1741 are as far back a I've seen this line researched. Although in the IGI I've seen Janet as Jean and their marriage as 9 June 1741. Guess I won't be convinced until I see a copy of the actual register.
My connection to John and Elspet Key is through their son John and wife Anne Collie. Their son John who married Hellen Mavor emigrated to Canada in 1858.
Jeff