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Fife / Re: burts of dunfermline
« on: Wednesday 28 January 09 09:31 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Dod,

Yes, the 1851 Census for Robert Burt is a horror!  I agree that I need to look at births in Fife and, based upon the census information and that of Robert's death record on SP (son of Andrew, weaver, deceased and Nancy William(s)) I have been looking for births over a period covering both.  The only birth I have found is for 1801 to Andrew Burt and Agnes Williamson (IGI).  As ScotlandsPeople advises that Agnes and Nancy are interchangeable names I think this is a strong possibility.  However I can find no record of it on Scotlandspeople.  Should I therefore be concerned about the validity of the record?  I would welcome your advice.
Regards,
Carmen

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Fife / Re: burts of dunfermline
« on: Sunday 25 January 09 05:00 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Duncan and Dod

Thanks very much for your responses and for confirming my understanding of the details of Robert Burt's death.  My Robert Burt is the St George (intemperate!) one. 

My problem remains finding a record of his birth that matches the details given on his death certificate (ie for Robert Burt, son of Andrew Burt, a weaver, and Nancy/Agnes William/Williams/Williamson, around 1801).  The confusion comes with the different information provided on the IGI, which could be completely wrong, another person altogether or a misreading/misrepresentation of details related to this Robert (case in point - Nancy and Agnes being interchangeable).  I think the key piece of information to confirm in any record of birth will be that it is a record for a Robert Burt, son of Andrew, a weaver.  Does this sound reasonable to you?  Important to note is that I can find NO record of such a person on ScotlandsPeople, which would suggest that I have run out of options.  Have you had any similar experience of this kind of a problem and how did you get around it?

Kind Regards

Earl

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Fife / Re: Burt family
« on: Saturday 24 January 09 05:25 GMT (UK)  »

I have been following your correspondence about the Burt family with great interest.  I am researching an ancestor named Robert Burt and am hoping you may be able to help me.  From ScotlandsPeople, and censuses, I know that he married Margaret Watt in 1823 in East Lothian and that they had five children:  Andrew, David, Elizabeth, John and Robert.  The OPR of Robert's death (1859, Edinburgh) gives his parents as Andrew, a weaver, deceased, and Nancy Williams, deceased.  I understand that the names Nancy and Agnes are interchangeable, so I think that he may be the son of Andrew Burt and Agnes Williamson, born Baldridge, Fife in 1801.

I have read another series of posts under Burt History and there is some correlation between what I have and the information posted.  I am confused however by discrepancies between the IGI and ScotlandsPeople.  Although both agree on Robert's marriage date and place, they differ on the birthdates of his children and I can't find any records on ScotlandsPeople for the birth of Robert to Andrew and Agnes.  Have you encountered a similar problem?  Would you have a suggestion for how I might resolve this problem?  I live in Australia so am unable to see original documents in person. 

Grateful any assistance or advice you could give.

Cheers

Earl

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Fife / Re: burts of dunfermline
« on: Saturday 24 January 09 05:21 GMT (UK)  »
I have been following your correspondence about the Burt family with great interest.  I am researching an ancestor named Robert Burt and am hoping you may be able to help me.  From ScotlandsPeople, and censuses, I know that he married Margaret Watt in 1823 in East Lothian and that they had five children:  Andrew, David, Elizabeth, John and Robert.  The OPR of Robert's death (1859, Edinburgh) gives his parents as Andrew, a weaver, deceased, and Nancy Williams, deceased.  I understand that the names Nancy and Agnes are interchangeable, so I think that he may be the son of Andrew Burt and Agnes Williamson, born Baldridge, Fife in 1801.

I have read another series of posts about Burt History and there is some correlation between what I have and the information posted.  I am confused however by discrepancies between the IGI and ScotlandsPeople.  Although both agree on Robert's marriage date and place, they differ on the birthdates of his children and I can't find any records on ScotlandsPeople for the birth of Robert to Andrew and Agnes.  Does any of this ring a bell for anyone?  Would you have a suggestion for how I might resolve this problem?  I live in Australia so am unable to see original documents in person. 

Grateful any assistance or advice anyone could give.

Cheers

Earl

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Fife / Further Burt History
« on: Monday 19 January 09 02:00 GMT (UK)  »
Tom - Hope you see this.

I have been following your correspondence about the Burt family with great interest.  I am researching an ancestor named Robert Burt and am hoping you may be able to help me.  From ScotlandsPeople, and censuses, I know that he married Margaret Watt in 1823 in East Lothian and that they had five children:  Andrew, David, Elizabeth, John and Robert.  The OPR of Robert's death (1859, Edinburgh) gives his parents as Andrew, a weaver, deceased, and Nancy Williams, deceased.  I understand that the names Nancy and Agnes are interchangeable, so I think that he may be the son of Andrew Burt and Agnes Williamson, born Baldridge, Fife in 1801.

I have read the posts under Burt History and there is some correlation between what I have and the information posted.  I am confused however by discrepancies between the IGI and ScotlandsPeople.  Although both agree on Robert's marriage date and place, they differ on the birthdates of his children and I can't find any records on ScotlandsPeople for the birth of Robert to Andrew and Agnes.  Would you have a suggestion for how I might resolve this problem?  I live in Australia so am unable to see original documents in person.  Also, do you think "my" Robert Burt is the one you referred to in your posts? 

Grateful any assistance or advice you could give.

Cheers

Earl

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Ross & Cromarty / Re: urquharts of tain?
« on: Sunday 16 November 08 07:41 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Pixie,

I am writing in response to the message you posted about the birth of Lochard Urquhart.  Lochard was my husband Peter's great x 3 grandfather and he  is descended from him through his son, William.  I am afraid I can't answer your questions about Christy or the name Lockhart.  I have census records for 1841 and 1851 for Lochard's son, Lockhart, and for his mother to 1861.  I also have a copy of her death certificate dated 1867, but I don't have any information about her husband other than what is on her death certificate.  The copy of Lochard's birth registration that I have is almost illegible.   I think it says Robert was a clockmaker, but I'm not sure!

If, by chance you are interested in information about the branch of the family that ended up in Australia, then I have lots of information that I would be pleased to share.  I woud also be delighted to hear more of what you know of the family as I have not had contact with any other relatives.

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