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Somerset / Re: Ash baptism - HALLETT
« on: Wednesday 06 February 13 14:55 GMT (UK)  »
Just found your posting which sounds like my g-g-grandfather! He was s/o Thomas & Ann (nee Penny) Hallett, bpt 7 April 1805 at Tintinhull according to PR transcript (tho family bible records 1806). He d. at Bere Aller (home of daughter) in 1885 aged 79yr, buried 3 Feb 1885 at Montacute, with wife Elizabeth (nee Cridland) who predeceased him.
I have quite a bit about him (& parents, siblings & descendants) which I'd be happy to share. It's always interesting to meet new 'family' & I'd love to know which of Jeremiah's children is 'yours' mine is Agnes Anne.

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Occupation Interests / Re: Teacher Training & National Schools mid C19th
« on: Friday 19 June 09 15:41 BST (UK)  »
Easier / fuller link to info re National Schools would be
http://www.natsoc.org.uk/society/archives.html.
A couple of years ago the archivists there were very helpful, if slow!
The National Schools Training Institute was at Baldwins Gardens, Holborn, London - [from ca.1812, I think]. There was Diocesan Training College for School Mistresses at Stapleton, nr Bristol from mid-1800s [attended by my g-g-aunt], later became Fishponds Training College.
Simple way to locate individual national schools is to search 'National Schools' in nearest appropriate directory on Historical Directories web-site. [Sorry if that's 'teaching granny'!]
Hope this helps,
p1pangy

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Anthony Campbell b. 1786 Balmaghie
« on: Monday 02 February 09 17:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Gadget - I'm sure they're mine. But could you please look again at Jean Campbell Colvin's age at death?
Nothing in the Balmaghie MIs on David (d. 1857) but there is this:
David Campbell, d. Lauriston 21 Dec 1821 aged 65
wife Janet McNish d. 28 May 1834 aged 78
Children -  James, draper in Gatehouse d 9 Oct 1849 aged 50 (int. Girthon)
               Margaret d. Laurieston 9 Oct 1852, aged 71
               Jean Campbell d. Delaware City, US 13 Nov 1853, aged 1853 (husband James Colvin)   
               Mary Campbell d. Laurieston 24 Feb 1887 aged 88 (husband Joseph Fraser)
I wonder why just these 4 [of 8 children] were on MI - parents' favourites perhaps? Certainly Anthony [d. likely early 1850s], David [d.1857], & William [d.1864] predeceased Mary [d.1887]. Could it be they had 'grass graves' - as no one around was able/willing to pay for stone with inscription? I'd like to find MIs for the other children and, particularly, the MIs [or other records of death, if any] for Anthony [1786-early1850s], his wife Mary Shaw [d.between 1841 & 1851 - or ran away from census then], daughter Mary [1824-1844, d. of typhus at Whimpark, Balmaghie par.].
Also I'd like to find proper marriage entry for Anthony & Mary - IGI shows "c.1807 in , , Kirkcudbrightshire" & scotlandspeople ignores them.
Again, thank you Gadget for yr disinterested help/advice - it's much appreciated.  ATB to all - is anyone else chasing this line?
p1pangy

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Anthony Campbell b. 1786 Balmaghie
« on: Wednesday 28 January 09 17:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hello to you all.
Thanks for the links Gadget! Hope you will feel better soon.
I have spent rather too much time recently 'up my tree in Balmaghie' and now have quite a lot of info about Anthony's offspring, siblings & parents which I will send Gadget - & anyone else who asks - offline.
re the 1861 census [earlier posting]  - nephew George Anthony Campbell was staying with unmarried uncle James Campbell who had obviously taken over his father's farm at Whimpark.
I would very much appreciate Gadget's expert advice on a number of points, but no hurry:
Do you know if IGI & OPR [on scotlandspeople] are the only available sources of parish records? - those seem a bit patchy for baptisms & marriages, & absent for pre-1855 deaths.
Do you have any of the Balmaghie family on your MIs? Death cert. of David Campbell [1782-1857] says he was buried in 'churchyard' - might there be a family plot?
Can you advise where Kirk Sessions Minutes might be found - Edinburgh or [hopefully] Dumfries? - I hope to enjoy 'site visit' sometime this year.
Can you see any obvious bloopers in what I've found? [see offline attachments]
Any other useful 'wrinkles' on tracing Scottish forebears?
re Tiana's tree - I wonder whether she links to John Campbell / Mary Shaw - yes another Mary Shaw - of Kirkpatrick Durham who appear in OPR as parents twice ca.1800 but not producing Robert there in 1809.
I think I'm now about to begin the really difficult part of this exercise! Just where did David Campbell & Janet McNish [married ca 1781] come from?

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Anthony Campbell b. 1786 Balmaghie
« on: Saturday 24 January 09 18:16 GMT (UK)  »
Think I've found Anthony[b.1786 Balmaghie]'s parents - David Campbell & Janet McNish - & siblings - from DC's will 14June1816 [found via scotlandspeople]. DC d.1821 & widow ca.1825 [I think]. DC was tailor in Laurieston, as was son David who appears in censuses there. Youngest son James [b.ca1800] was successful draper in Gatehouse - was nephew [my] Robert trained by him? [R became draper in Yorkshire].  Other sons, William & Anthony [Robert's dad], were small farmers/farm servants/ag.labs [from censuses]. Also 4 daughters Margaret, Mary, Jean & Janet. I'm almost convinced on this but not yet 100%.
Hope this v. brief summary clear to you all!
Would welcome any comments on this or my previous post.

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Unwanted Birth, Marriage, Death Certs N to S / SMITH William d.1917, Eden Bridge, Kent
« on: Wednesday 19 November 08 17:50 GMT (UK)  »
Unwanted GRO copy d.cert - Wm Smith 77yrs, house-painter, d.10 Nov.'17, widow Matilda [not my g-g-parents]

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: Anthony Campbell b. 1786 Balmaghie
« on: Saturday 15 November 08 18:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Gadget & Tiana - just found yr spring exchange - most illuminating.

BUT I think Robert Campbell bpt Balmaghie 1811 [s/o Anthony Campbell & Mary Shaw] became a draper in Leeds where he died in 1870. He married a Yorkshire lass [Hannah Burras] & had 7 children - Janet b.1840, John Edward b.1842, Mary Hannah [my granny's mother] b.1843, George Anthony b.1846 and enumerated in 1861 census as 'visiting nephew' in Balmaghie  [though I'm unsure which of the Campbell families he was visiting], Fanny b.1847 [who celebrated her 100th birthday], Robert Henry b.1853 & Colin b.1856; the 2 eldest boys became drapers. I'll be happy to provide more info. on this family.

I've based my link on Robt & Hannah's marriage cert. 1839, Leeds - "father Anthony, farmer"; Robt's birthplace "Scotland" in censuses; my granny's insistence on her Yorkshire-Scottish roots; the uncommonness of Anthony as a forename for Campbells; and in 1861 census the absence of George Anthony from Leeds & [I hope] his presence in Balmaghie.

I'd welcome any comments on this link and any more advice on getting further back - tho' I've not yet followed up the leads already suggested - been busy up other trees!

Also, does anyone have info re Samuel Campbell whose dau. Mary was baptised 1813 in Balmaghie. Could he have gone to Leeds as tailor/draper by 1817?




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